Some food for thought (obama)

[Bill-SOCAL]

And here is the historical significance of the National Anthem that your boy want to change to "I want to Teach the World to Sing".

http://gallery.offshoreelectrics.com/displayimage.php?album=46&pos=0

B.O. must really love this country, huh?

Honestly Bill, take a few moments to get your facts straight:

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_obama_say_the_national_anthem_conveys.html

And keep in mind that just because you want to believe it does not make it true.

[Darin Jordan]

And here is a summary of the "history" of the Pledge:

Here is a little more history for you...

The BS story being taught in our schools these days about the Pilgrims arriving at Plymouth Rock, tired, hungry, unable to care for themselves, being rescued by the Indians, then holding a dinner to thank them, is not quite right...

Did you know that the first [Plymouth Colony Pilgrim's] Thanksgiving was a celebration of the triumph of private property and individual initiative?

William Bradford was the governor of the original Pilgrim colony, founded at Plymouth in 1621. The colony was first organized on a communal basis, as their financiers required. Land was owned in common. The Pilgrims farmed communally, too, following the "from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs" precept.

The results were disastrous. Communism didn't work any better 400 years ago than it does today. By 1623, the colony had suffered serious losses. Starvation was imminent.

Bradford realized that the communal system encouraged and rewarded waste and laziness and inefficiency, and destroyed individual initiative. Desperate, he abolished it. He distributed private plots of land among the surviving Pilgrims, encouraging them to plant early and farm as individuals, not collectively.

The results: a bountiful early harvest that saved the colonies. After the harvest, the Pilgrims celebrated with a day of Thanksgiving -- on August 9th.

Unfortunately, William Bradford's diaries -- in which he recorded the failure of the collectivist system and the triumph of private enterprise -- were lost for many years. When Thanksgiving was later made a national holiday, the present November date was chosen. And the lesson the Pilgrims so painfully learned was, alas, not made a part of the holiday.

Happily, Bradford's diaries were later rediscovered. They're available today in paperback. They tell the real story of Thanksgiving -- how private property and individual initiative saved the Pilgrims.

This Thanksgiving season, one of the many things I'm thankful for is our free market system (imperfectly realized as it is). And I'm also grateful that there are increasing numbers of Americans who are learning the importance of free markets, and who are working to replace government coercion with marketplace cooperation here in America and around the world.

You can read more here:

http://freedomkeys.com/thanksgiving.htm

http://www.mises.org/article.aspx?Id=336&FS=The+Great+Thanksgiving+Hoax

You see... this kind of Socialism has been tried, and tried, and tried again, always with the same results... It simply isn't sustainable and does not, has not, and will not work...

I could give a rip at this point about Obama's "Patriatism", or his color, or even his religous believes, asside from those that might align with any extremist organisations out there..... His "social" beliefs and "plans", however, largely and very OBVIOUSLY driven and supported by his associations and background (His mother was a far left extremist as well), would destroy this once GREAT country and the quality of life we now ALL enjoy...

What I find particularly odd is how SOOOO many of you, with GREAT lives, lots of money, decent jobs, and all the freedoms afforded to you, can just follow along so willingly to have this taken away?

[RCprince]

Darin, you concerns are duly noted, But as a whole the country has giving up, their is no collective "us", it's every man for himself, the captains of this ship have disembarked years ago and a nation without borders is the compass heading, national sovereignty is a thing of the past. It will be the New Earth (all inclusive) against them( whom ever the next enemy will be).

[Avanti]

the REPUBLIC is the main thing I was pointing out
though I believe GOD is very important too

[Spot Me 2]

And why was adding "One nation, under GOD" a bad thing again???????????????

Still waiting for an answer.

[Avanti]

Wingers use God as an excuse, their propensity for violence and reciprocity is totally non christian. When I ask them about Matthew 5, especially verses 38 to 48 they start yabba dabba, dooing... lol. See "god" is generic, so by using "god" they can cover their warmongering ways by using god in the context the old testament presented "god" as, but they forget about Big J... But you know what, I'll be taking my lead spitter to heaven, there might be some funny stuff going on.


I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.
Mohandas Gandhi

you do realize you're a winger too right? the left is also a wing.

[Darin Jordan]

The Bird Feeder:

Warning: The guy drops a couple of F-bombs...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaklEq36_dk

[Avanti]

so more good points

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTR0s9_PBN0

How to talk to an obama cultist (Ghost make sure you view this one since you think I am such a racist)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nu48TgUVCo

more on experience and judgement

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6OAizwKHsU

[Bill-SOCAL]

Still waiting for an answer.

Let me turn it around. Why is it a good idea? Why was it necessary to alter the original version??

Just saw Avanti's post. It still amuses me to no end how you disparaged my use of Wikipedia as a source and yet you have no problem using unattributable sources off of YouTube.

[ghostofpf1]

Still waiting for an answer.

This is a country founded on dissent and immigration.Not every person on this continent believes in any particular deity but they might all stand behind the Country. Why should they be forced to pledge allegiance to a deity at the same time they pledge allegiance to the Country ??

edit.So now you use youtube to form your opinions for you....LOL...
Ghost

[Flying Scotsman]

Only, one more day, thank God. Then the proof will be in the pudding and after a year in office was the candidate of choice, the right one?
Time will tell, in these difficult times.

Douggie

[RCprince]

you do realize you're a winger too right? the left is also a wing.

Actually I'm neither as I've mention before... I hold fast to no political ideology... I just love the right and their subjectivity and their pseudo love of "Big J". Liberty is what I acknowledge, every man has to right to worship who he wants, every man born, has a right equal land in order to provide for family and self, and so forth and so on. freedom is free. But liberty is a natural right. So give me liberty or give me death... Your freedom ends when it starts to infringe on someone else's freedom.

[Spot Me 2]

What was the country founded in??? What were our forefathers?? Did they worship Alah or the devil?? Lets keep taking God out of things. It's worked great so far.

[Avanti]

wow 57 states

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws&feature=related

[Spot Me 2]

wow 57 states
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH0...eature=related

Thats after he takes office. The middle east will be the other 7.