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  • Dr. Jet
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Sep 2007
    • 1707

    #16
    Originally posted by Rumdog
    Culture? Language? Get real man, it's called diversity.
    Diversity has never been the path to greatness. It is the uniqueness of the American culture and rugged individulaism that made this country great. Historically, people came here from other cultures to become Americans, not some hyphenated sub-group claiming special rights and exclusions.

    Rememeber the phrase "the melting pot"? People came from around the world because of the opportunity this country offered (not the claim of equal outcome), they learned English, and they became became Americans. The melting pot is gone and we now have fruit salad. Lots of little enclaves of various cultures, all clinging to their own cultures making this country a non-entity.

    Diversity is a curse, not a blessing.
    A nation of sheep breeds a government of wolves

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    • domwilson
      Moderator
      • Apr 2007
      • 4408

      #17
      Originally posted by Dr. Jet
      Diversity has never been the path to greatness. It is the uniqueness of the American culture and rugged individulaism that made this country great. Historically, people came here from other cultures to become Americans, not some hyphenated sub-group claiming special rights and exclusions.

      Rememeber the phrase "the melting pot"? People came from around the world because of the opportunity this country offered (not the claim of equal outcome), they learned English, and they became became Americans. The melting pot is gone and we now have fruit salad. Lots of little enclaves of various cultures, all clinging to their own cultures making this country a non-entity.

      Diversity is a curse, not a blessing.
      America has taken the strengths of each culture and incorporated it into their own.
      Government Moto:
      "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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      • rockwerks
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2008
        • 772

        #18
        Originally posted by Dr. Jet
        There is nothing in my comments about race. If you are blue-eyed and blonde and sneak in this country illegally from Sweden, I have the same opinion. I don't want my tax dollars going to support you. End of discussion. I don't care what country you come from, race has nothing to do with it. You violate our laws and expect me to pay for your sorry a$$? GO HOME and fix your own crappy country and respect my Borders, Language, and Culture.

        Less than 2% of health care and other social service totals goes to support illegal immigrants in this country.
        an RC rock crawler lost in a sea of boat parts.........

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        • rockwerks
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2008
          • 772

          #19
          Originally posted by Dr. Jet
          Diversity has never been the path to greatness. It is the uniqueness of the American culture and rugged individulaism that made this country great. Historically, people came here from other cultures to become Americans, not some hyphenated sub-group claiming special rights and exclusions.

          Rememeber the phrase "the melting pot"? People came from around the world because of the opportunity this country offered (not the claim of equal outcome), they learned English, and they became became Americans. The melting pot is gone and we now have fruit salad. Lots of little enclaves of various cultures, all clinging to their own cultures making this country a non-entity.

          Diversity is a curse, not a blessing.
          It has always been that way since the beginning of this country.

          Historically people from other countries have tended to stay with their group since the beginning, right down to religion. You have your facts exactly backwards. These days we have a higher percentage of integration than ever before in US history.

          100 years ago it would have been inconceivable for a Jewish girl to marry a christian or Muslim, today it is a common occurrence.
          an RC rock crawler lost in a sea of boat parts.........

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          • Dr. Jet
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Sep 2007
            • 1707

            #20
            Originally posted by rockwerks
            Less than 2% of health care and other social service totals goes to support illegal immigrants in this country.
            You obviously have not visited an emergency ward in Southern California lately. Where do you find these nonsensical statistics?

            Illegal aliens cost California over $10,500,000,000 a year (education, encarceration, and healthcare - $1,400,000,000 on healthcare alone): http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/immigr...caillegals.htm
            Last edited by Dr. Jet; 08-24-2009, 03:27 PM. Reason: Fix typos
            A nation of sheep breeds a government of wolves

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            • rockwerks
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2008
              • 772

              #21
              Originally posted by Dr. Jet
              You obviously have not visited an emergency ward in Southern California lately. Where do you find these nonsensical statistics?

              Illegal aliens cost California over $10,500,000,000 a year (education, encarceration, and healthcare - $1,400,000,000 on healthcare alone): http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/immigr...caillegals.htm
              your statistics are from 2004, in 2004 the california health care spending was 169,000,000,000 you where right! it is less than 1% for the year!

              http://www.chcf.org/documents/insura...CAaddendum.pdf
              an RC rock crawler lost in a sea of boat parts.........

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              • Rumdog
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Mar 2009
                • 6453

                #22
                "Diversity is a curse, not a blessing." Well that just about says it all man. I'd love to know how immigrants speaking a different language upsets you so much. Guess what man, EVERYONE is different, and has the right to be. Get over it! They also have the right to any friggin kind of culture they want.

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                • Dr. Jet
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 1707

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Rumdog
                  I'd love to know how immigrants speaking a different language upsets you so much.
                  I said nothing about immigrants. I am on a rant about ILLEGAL ALIENS. By the way, illegal aliens are not immigrants in the definition of US law. Immigration is a legal process for foreigners to become citizens.

                  Originally posted by Rumdog
                  Guess what man, EVERYONE is different, and has the right to be. Get over it! They also have the right to any friggin kind of culture they want.
                  They are absolutely entitled to their culture.... In their counrty. Come to our country and respect our culture (or what's left of it).

                  There are only three things that define a country: Its borders, its language, and its culture. Without borders, language, and culture, there is no France, no Germany, no Slovakia, no Brazil, no Uraguay, no Chile, no.... well, you get the picture.

                  Try going to some foriegn country and start demanding that they adapt their culture to suit a handfull of Americans illegally living in some isolated enclave and see what happens. Demand multi-culturalism, demand that they have everything in their native language AND English, and see what happens. Then start demanding that said foriegn government pay for your healthcare, give you food stamps, free education, free this and free that, and see what happens.

                  Just for what it's worth, go research how Mexico treats its southern border with Guatamala. They have an illegal immigration problem there too. Their solution? The Mexican military protects their border and the Guatamalan "immigrants" that survive are detained and deported post haste.

                  You sound like you are young. You will get to live through the further decline of this once great country into a fractured, third-world socialist hellhole, just like all the other third-world socialist hellholes out there. Go vote yourself some government handouts and welcome all the people that violate our sovereignty. You will get what you deserve.
                  A nation of sheep breeds a government of wolves

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                  • AndyKunz
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 1437

                    #24
                    Choice:

                    a) Trickle-up misery, or
                    b) Trickle-down economics

                    I choose b.

                    Andy
                    Spektrum Development Team

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                    • Dr. Jet
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 1707

                      #25
                      Originally posted by AndyKunz
                      Choice:

                      a) Trickle-up misery, or
                      b) Trickle-down economics

                      I choose b.

                      Andy
                      Actually Andy, I think the correct terms might be:

                      a) Trickle-up POVERTY
                      b) Trickle-down economics

                      I too, choose b
                      A nation of sheep breeds a government of wolves

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                      • domwilson
                        Moderator
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 4408

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Dr. Jet
                        You will get to live through the further decline of this once great country into a fractured, third-world socialist hellhole, just like all the other third-world socialist hellholes out there. Go vote yourself some government handouts and welcome all the people that violate our sovereignty. You will get what you deserve.
                        I've been hearing these theories since the 70's. And yet, we are still the most powerful nation on earth.
                        Government Moto:
                        "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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                        • Dr. Jet
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 1707

                          #27
                          Originally posted by domwilson
                          I've been hearing these theories since the 70's. And yet, we are still the most powerful nation on earth.
                          Not true anymore. Our President bows at the feet of Saudi Kings and apologizes for being an American. Leftist politicians subordinate this country's interests to the interest of "Globalism" and pseudo-science. Two-bit Somalian pirates hold U.S. Citizens for ransom - and get paid (ony one exception to this scenario has occurred that I can recall). The U.S. dollar is worth zip on the world market. We have a sophicasted military, yet no one has the guts to use it for its intended purpose (to break things and kill people in spectacular fashion), instead it is used to keep military contractors in a positive cash-flow situation. Oh yes, what about China?

                          Yes, in the 70s and 80s, we were the most powerful nation on earth. Ronaldus Magnus told Gorby "Tear down this wall!" and what happened? The wall came down. Do you think Barry Hussein Obama, Nancy "botox" Pelosi, Harry "land swindler" Reid, Barbara "check bouncer" Boxer, Henry "Nostrilitus" Waxman, Barney "I know nothing of a gay prostitution business being run out of my house" Frank, and Maxine "no justice, no peace" Waters have that level of commitment to the strength of this country?
                          A nation of sheep breeds a government of wolves

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                          • Dr. Jet
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 1707

                            #28
                            Imagine for a minute the following scenario: You are at your job; you just got paid and cashed your check. You wallet is full of the hard-earned fruits of your labor. Come quitting time, you walk outside and there I am with two big goons at my side and I demand that you hand over your wallet; otherwise my goons will do something bad to you with no legal repercussions whatsoever. Begrudgingly, you relinquish your wallet and I remove as much cash as I feel appropriate. (I don’t know, how does half of it sound?) Then I tell you that I know better than you how to spend your money and that I am going to give some of it to some crack addicts in “the ‘Hood”, and send the rest in an envelope to some of my buddies in Tierra Del Fuego.

                            What would you think? Do you think that is the proper thing for me to do? If so, please forward your work address and payday schedule via PM so my “Associates” and I can meet up with you when you get paid (P.S. my “Associates” are “ethnically diverse”, well armed, and skilled in the martial arts if you get my drift…). If you do not think that is a proper thing for me to do, please tell me the difference between what I propose and what the government does.

                            The government TAKES you money (whether you like it or not), and then spends it according to their priorities because they believe they know better how to spend your money than do you. A big chunk of it goes to support criminals that break our laws, or foreign nationals who have entered this country ILLEGALLY with no intention whatsoever of becoming “Americans” (by “Americans”, I refer specifically to U.S. Citizens, not inhabitants of “the Americas” – North, Central, and South).

                            Let me know which side of the argument you believe is correct. I look forward to seeing you on payday!
                            A nation of sheep breeds a government of wolves

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                            • domwilson
                              Moderator
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 4408

                              #29
                              Like I said, since I became of legal age to vote in the 70's. It's been going on. Nothing has changed...with the exception of one numchuk with a mental disorder and his league of extrordinary henchmen, trying to re-interpret the consititution for us. Not talking Obama there. They raise our taxes each year let's just say..6% per year. Then every 5th year they give us a tax "cut" "break", whatever their term of the day might be,
                              for 5%. And we are supposed to be eternally greatful? Obama is just a new face on an old problem. The people have lost control of the government that they are supposed to control.
                              Government Moto:
                              "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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                              • Dr. Jet
                                Fast Electric Addict!
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 1707

                                #30
                                Originally posted by domwilson
                                The people have lost control of the government that they are supposed to control.
                                Well, at least there are SOME things that we can agree upon.

                                How and why that came to pass may be subject to debate though....
                                A nation of sheep breeds a government of wolves

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