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  • gerardobrandao
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 164

    #91
    Proteus X524 Inisde

    Hello Guys


    Has soon has i ha oportunity i opened the back and took some pictures....
    Has i told you, and i guess i wasn´t mistaken, TP 5850 motor is far superior to the X524 motor.....
    As you can see from the pics, there is almost 0.6 inch from the back that doesn´t have "stator" area, wich leads to a "efective rotor" about the same lenght and diameter has the leopard 5692...
    Only after trying it, i could lead to "real" performance opinion, but from speculation, i think it´s a deceptive motor...It´s like having a 527 cubic inch block, with 350 capacity....
    Efective magnet length is 64mm about 2.52 inch!

    Can anyone give input for stator efective length of leopard 5692 motor?









    Best Regards

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    • Punisher 67
      Ignore list member #67
      • May 2008
      • 1480

      #92
      Effective magnet lenght to a HK 5692 is 50.00mm long by 28.20mm in dia , interesting thing HK had some of the 5692 sized T20 motors Keith Bradley is selling and I happen to nab one - good thing they only had them for about two weeks and they are off the menu completely . Rotor size is 50.00mm long x 27.70mm in dia - both motors have virtually the same size rotor the difference could be just the wrap

      The HK 5692 HAS 18 stacks and 6 magnetic segments
      The T20 had 12 stacks and 4 magnet segments

      The KV of both motors are in there 700's
      Attached Files
      Necessity is the mother of invention.............

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      • Brushless55
        Creator
        • Oct 2008
        • 9488

        #93
        Wow, looks like when I opened up a TP motor and a Leopard I have..
        my pictures looked the same as these side by side
        .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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        • gerardobrandao
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2008
          • 164

          #94
          X 524 motor

          Originally posted by Punisher 67
          Effective magnet lenght to a HK 5692 is 50.00mm long by 28.20mm in dia , interesting thing HK had some of the 5692 sized T20 motors Keith Bradley is selling and I happen to nab one - good thing they only had them for about two weeks and they are off the menu completely . Rotor size is 50.00mm long x 27.70mm in dia - both motors have virtually the same size rotor the difference could be just the wrap

          The HK 5692 HAS 18 stacks and 6 magnetic segments
          The T20 had 12 stacks and 4 magnet segments

          The KV of both motors are in there 700's


          Thanks for your input:

          So the HK5692 is a 6 pole motor, against the 4 pole motor of the Leopard....didn´t know that, thats why one have 18 stacks and the other one 12...18/6=3=12/4

          So...i see i was wrong...the X524 has a almost 30% higher rotor lenght....it may not tranform in more power, but it is a good start..

          Other question, if anyone can help, since i think this is a good review for everyone....:

          Can someone tell me (us) the length and diameter of the castle 2028 rotor length, for direct comparison against X524 motor!?

          Best Regards to all

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          • ray schrauwen
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Apr 2007
            • 9471

            #95
            Originally posted by Punisher 67
            Effective magnet lenght to a HK 5692 is 50.00mm long by 28.20mm in dia , interesting thing HK had some of the 5692 sized T20 motors Keith Bradley is selling and I happen to nab one - good thing they only had them for about two weeks and they are off the menu completely . Rotor size is 50.00mm long x 27.70mm in dia - both motors have virtually the same size rotor the difference could be just the wrap

            The HK 5692 HAS 18 stacks and 6 magnetic segments
            The T20 had 12 stacks and 4 magnet segments

            The KV of both motors are in there 700's
            You will notice a difference even further, sorry I didn't take pic's but, the HOR SSS 1200kv version has a set screw on each end of the rotor and the inner stack & rotor of HOR 1200kv is 1/2" longer than the rotor of the Hobby King TP power 1320kv version. Many versions.

            I've had many 5692's and kept the 1200Kv HOR motor as it runs very nice in my 40" mono.
            Nortavlag Bulc

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            • ray schrauwen
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Apr 2007
              • 9471

              #96
              The Proteus motor most likely the closest to a Castle 2028 would be the Proteus car motor. The X528 is much longer than the boat motors** and is rated at 780Kv, 7350 watts, Max 38Vdc, 193Amps Max, 1260 grams without a cooling jacket.

              ** Meaning the stack and rotor because the wires come out the side of the 112mm can enabling a longer stack & rotor, I'm assuming without having one here but, I pretty close me thinks...

              BTW, HOR rates his motors at max 10,000 watts ???? ooops, says 12,000 watts for 5694 motor.
              Attached Files
              Last edited by ray schrauwen; 10-09-2012, 02:35 PM. Reason: For picture of chart
              Nortavlag Bulc

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              • ray schrauwen
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Apr 2007
                • 9471

                #97
                I just checked and Steve, OSE.. has New 112mm Leopards for sale. Now these are going to be very nice motors 4 sure.
                Nortavlag Bulc

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                • Azmarine
                  Member
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 70

                  #98
                  I think price wise for motors this close in size and quality, proteus takes it with a sticker of $111.90 each for the 524-2t 910kv/1580kv. Especially if your going with twins shipping is the only hit, about $53 to Tucson. I think I'm going proteus twins in my drambuie. Keep in mind I am a newbie, but not dummy. I'd like to get a bit more feedback before I commit to this buy
                  That odd moment when you think, "Is RTR the way to go?" Then you see your hard work, and laugh at the thought.

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                  • twissted
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 867

                    #99
                    There is a couple of places to get these motors from, another has better shipping. But the price is a little more. OSE sells them now so you will have to do your home work to find what I'm talking about.
                    twissted from speed. Lead, fallow or get out of the way. Copy cats in back of the buss!!!

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                    • Cooper
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 1141

                      #100
                      Originally posted by twissted
                      There is a couple of places to get these motors from, another has better shipping. But the price is a little more. OSE sells them now so you will have to do your home work to find what I'm talking about.
                      Why don't you just tell where els these are and be helpful?

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                      • Azmarine
                        Member
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 70

                        #101
                        Well the cheapest I've found is rcecho.com and they are 111.90 each I went thru the checkout process and for two shipped to my door it was $276.70. So far everywhere else wants about 160 or more per. That's just my little input.
                        That odd moment when you think, "Is RTR the way to go?" Then you see your hard work, and laugh at the thought.

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                        • Punisher 67
                          Ignore list member #67
                          • May 2008
                          • 1480

                          #102
                          Originally posted by ray schrauwen

                          BTW, HOR rates his motors at max 10,000 watts ???? ooops, says 12,000 watts for 5694 motor.
                          12000 watts for a 5692 !!! - In a a pigs a$$.... , he's dreaming
                          Necessity is the mother of invention.............

                          Youtube Video's http://www.youtube.com/user/Titanis2000

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                          • ray schrauwen
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 9471

                            #103
                            Maybe so but, they are far different than TP power of the same numbers... I think TP Power has splintered up. Johnny said he hired some guys from TP to make motors to his spec, not TP specs.

                            Originally posted by Punisher 67
                            12000 watts for a 5692 !!! - In a a pigs a$$.... , he's dreaming
                            Nortavlag Bulc

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                            • keithbradley
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 3663

                              #104
                              Originally posted by Punisher 67
                              Effective magnet lenght to a HK 5692 is 50.00mm long by 28.20mm in dia , interesting thing HK had some of the 5692 sized T20 motors Keith Bradley is selling and I happen to nab one - good thing they only had them for about two weeks and they are off the menu completely . Rotor size is 50.00mm long x 27.70mm in dia - both motors have virtually the same size rotor the difference could be just the wrap

                              The HK 5692 HAS 18 stacks and 6 magnetic segments
                              The T20 had 12 stacks and 4 magnet segments

                              The KV of both motors are in there 700's
                              The T20 motors that HK sells are not the same as a 524, they are shorter.
                              I have done comparisons on 5692, 524, and 2028 motors and I have tested the 524 motors. Each is it's own and doesn't compare to the others. I can assure you that none of these motors are the same size internally.
                              www.keithbradleyboats.com

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                              • Punisher 67
                                Ignore list member #67
                                • May 2008
                                • 1480

                                #105
                                Sorry Keith what I was trying to say was Skyrc the manufacturer of the 524 and 528 Proteus motors also make a buggy version . The 524 will have a 2.4 inch long rotor and the 528 will have a 2.8 inch long rotor . I will bet the farm that the rotors are all the same diameter as the 56 series motors TP's and HK's

                                Last edited by Punisher 67; 10-09-2012, 09:25 PM.
                                Necessity is the mother of invention.............

                                Youtube Video's http://www.youtube.com/user/Titanis2000

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