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  • Punisher 67
    Ignore list member #67
    • May 2008
    • 1481

    #76
    Well I am not going to claim to be an expert but here is my experience with 12c - I have a 57" Apache that uses a Lehner 3080/7 , 65mm prop and run in the 12T configuration the KV is about 490-RPM/V . Running a Eagletree for a few runs it shows the motor drawing 80amps continuous and 100amps peak....But......a Lehner 3080 is a much larger and a more efficient motor than a 5692 and will not labor quite as hard ( draw less amps ) as a 5692 with the same or similar KV turning the same prop . So you might be able to get away with a 130amp esc but it doesn't leave you a lot of room for error .
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    Last edited by Punisher 67; 09-15-2012, 09:54 PM.
    Necessity is the mother of invention.............

    Youtube Video's http://www.youtube.com/user/Titanis2000

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    • ray schrauwen
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Apr 2007
      • 9438

      #77
      The stack & magnets are only 55mm long for the smaller 1280kv version. For same length of Lehner motor there would be a longer Field and magnets.

      Nice motors. Are the 56mm Leopards 4 pole or 6 Pole like TP Power?
      Nortavlag Bulc

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      • znus
        Broke, as usual
        • Jun 2011
        • 120

        #78
        Ray, the Leo is 4-pole.
        25" Arrowana with Etti 2970 3300kV. RCMK Flying Cat with twin HOR Outboards. 2 x SSS 4092 2140kV. Faluga 45" with Leo 56110 620 kv on 12s.

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        • scottw
          Member
          • Dec 2011
          • 49

          #79
          Has anybody ran one of these yet?
          Time will tell - at around $90USD - I am wondering???
          Around 1/2 the cost of the TP Power - and a max of 5280watts??

          I think I will wait and see

          Scott..

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          • Azmarine
            Member
            • Sep 2012
            • 70

            #80
            Ok, so I found this thread by googling the 524-3t after finding it on Keith Bradley's site as well as rc echo.com. My question to all of you experienced builders out there is "with a 54inch drambuie, would I need 1 or two of these? And on what battery setup?" I'm not looking for record speeds, or even a competitive race boat, I just want something to do with my brother, that's fast and worth it. And I've been told by many I should have gone with a deep v but it was on Craig's list for a steal. Sorry if I'm off topic here but there's not much out there about these motors. And yes to all I'm a newbie to marine rc.
            That odd moment when you think, "Is RTR the way to go?" Then you see your hard work, and laugh at the thought.

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            • ray schrauwen
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Apr 2007
              • 9438

              #81
              I could run it this weekend possibly but, I'm most likely going to run my SSS 5694-1200KV first.

              You can get SSS version of TP Power (better imo) from hor for $105 with cooler.

              Originally posted by scottw
              Has anybody ran one of these yet?
              Time will tell - at around $90USD - I am wondering???
              Around 1/2 the cost of the TP Power - and a max of 5280watts??

              I think I will wait and see

              Scott..
              Nortavlag Bulc

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              • Punisher 67
                Ignore list member #67
                • May 2008
                • 1481

                #82
                The next big bad boy from trackstar

                53.5mm x 114mm

                http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...tor_760KV.html
                Necessity is the mother of invention.............

                Youtube Video's http://www.youtube.com/user/Titanis2000

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                • gerardobrandao
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 164

                  #83
                  Hello Guys



                  Mine X524 motor have arrived yesterday..First thing i did whas to open for seeing it inside...

                  Here follows some pics.. :











                  Waiting for inputs!


                  The finish seems better on the sky rc motor compared to TP5850, bearings are from NSK, the shaft is correctly grounded...
                  The water coolet seems to loose.
                  Altough, from appearance TP 5850 seems to handle a lot better bigger amps, due to higher content of cooper compared to Sky rc!

                  Best Regards

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                  • ray schrauwen
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 9438

                    #84
                    I like show & tell.

                    Looks identicle to the inside of my HK Version.

                    Thanks for sharing!

                    The one thing not so hot is how the rear connectors are pressed into the endbell.

                    I tried an 8mm connector I had kicking around (cheapo ones) and they were so tight I almost pulled the whole connector out with the female and white nylon/ptfe sleeve! They are soldered well inside so, hopefully its not buggered.

                    The 8mm it comes with are not as tight and may not do that as bad...
                    Nortavlag Bulc

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                    • egneg
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 4664

                      #85
                      Originally posted by Punisher 67
                      The next big bad boy from trackstar

                      53.5mm x 114mm

                      http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...tor_760KV.html
                      But at 30 volts max it is of limited use.
                      IMPBA 20481S D-12

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                      • Punisher 67
                        Ignore list member #67
                        • May 2008
                        • 1481

                        #86
                        Originally posted by egneg
                        But at 30 volts max it is of limited use.
                        I 'll bet it would take more - the 2028 was also under rated and run at 10cell with no issues . If the rotor is wrapped I'd feel safe at 40volts
                        Necessity is the mother of invention.............

                        Youtube Video's http://www.youtube.com/user/Titanis2000

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                        • Brushless55
                          Creator
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 9479

                          #87
                          I bet that Trackstar motor will take 10s no problem..
                          Dang Hobbyking! Causing me to spend more money now to do a brushless conversion for my Baja 5b
                          That motor on 6s would be plenty, 8s and holly crud!
                          .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                          • twissted
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 867

                            #88

                            This is a video that HK did on this motor!
                            twissted from speed. Lead, fallow or get out of the way. Copy cats in back of the buss!!!

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                            • twissted
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 867

                              #89
                              monster motor

                              Details
                              Code IM679
                              Packet Weight 1474.00 grams

                              Price: $111.90
                              Quantity Price
                              *Note:


                              Introduction
                              Proteus Series Motors are designed for large scale rc boat (1.5-2m length).

                              The revolutionary design of Proteus motors is its unique wire configuration. There are six connectors on the motor and the user can switch the wire configuration (wire or triangle) by themselves at any time. When the user requests the motor with more RPM and high speed, he could use triangle configuration; when the user request the motor with more torque and power, he could use star configuration,. In this case, one piece of motor can meet the user’s request for speed or power in different situation.

                              What’s more, there is water cooling shell outside of the motor. It is designed to cool down the motor temperature so that the motor could perform best.

                              These motors can be switched between STAR and TRIANGLE with configuration.
                              There are 6 connectors on the motor.
                              Triangle Configuration=More RPM
                              Star Configuration=More Torque

                              Specifications
                              X524 2Y System
                              Watts: 6300W
                              Max Voltage: 33V
                              Max Amps: 190A

                              Resistance: 0.0069

                              KV (RPM/volt): 910

                              Max RPM: 30000
                              Length: 112mm

                              Diameter (w/fins): 55.8mm

                              Weight: 1035g

                              Shaft Diameter: 8mm

                              Length of extend shaft: 30mm

                              X524 2D System

                              Watts: 6300W
                              Max Voltage: 19V
                              Max Amps: 331A

                              Resistance: 0.0029

                              KV (RPM/volt): 1580

                              Max RPM: 30000
                              Length: 112mm

                              Diameter (w/fins): 55.8mm

                              Weight: 1035g

                              Shaft Diameter: 8mm

                              Length of extend shaft: 30mm

                              Features
                              High Quality Bearings
                              Rotor - 4 Pole Neodymium Magnets
                              Stator - Super Thin(0.2mm) Laminations
                              Super Strength 8mm Shaft
                              With Water Cooling Shell
                              6 Connectors
                              2 Wire Configuration-Triangle & Star
                              skyrc-x524-2t-2y2d_im679_02.jpg
                              twissted from speed. Lead, fallow or get out of the way. Copy cats in back of the buss!!!

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                              • gerardobrandao
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 164

                                #90
                                Proteus X524 Inisde

                                Hello Guys


                                Has soon has i ha oportunity i opened the back and took some pictures....
                                Has i told you, and i guess i wasn´t mistaken, TP 5850 motor is far superior to the X524 motor.....
                                As you can see from the pics, there is almost 0.6 inch from the back that doesn´t have "stator" area, wich leads to a "efective rotor" about the same lenght and diameter has the leopard 5692...
                                Only after trying it, i could lead to "real" performance opinion, but from speculation, i think it´s a deceptive motor...It´s like having a 527 cubic inch block, with 350 capacity....
                                Efective magnet length is 64mm about 2.52 inch!

                                Can anyone give input for stator efective length of leopard 5692 motor?









                                Best Regards

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