HPR 135 SAW project, >125mph and RTR

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  • ManuelW
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 756

    #1

    HPR 135 SAW project, >125mph and RTR

    Hello Guys,

    today is my SAW project for 135, a HPR 135, for sale.

    HPR 135 SAW-Projekt


    hull:

    HPR 135 in the bullet proof version, carbon/cevlar hybrid as well as pure carbon fibre was use. The tunnel as well as the whole upper deck are with sandwich laminate. The hull is really strong, weight was an amazing 3375 for the empty hull. For stiffness look the photos.
    At SAW in Germany (Regattabahn Duisburg) I had some really very hard crashes at high speeds. There the hull showed some weaknesses. I repaired them all and also reinforced the hulls at these points. For such projects there is no guarantee but I'd be surprised if it breaks again at these points. I also stopped these as good as possible. If interested I could have the hull professionally stopped and painted with primer/base coat or uni-color in a car garage for a low bargin.

    hatch:

    The hatch is a custom made one and unique at the moment. Its completely Aramid/Kevlar and therefore suitable for GPS-use. Average thickness is about 7mm, should be enough. Its secured with 6x M4 countersunk screws, the countersunk was directly integrated in the mould. Therefore the weave was not damaged. You'll also get a 2nd spare bullet-proof hull by HPR and an air-scoop.

    engines:

    The motors are a pair of LMT 3040/6. I used them in Wye-connection, giving a 10.4 turn motor. Max efficiency is around ~220A and nearly 10kW per motor. In Delta-Connection up to 2x 10S are possible, in Wye-Connection I used them up to 2x 13S. You'll also get suitable well soldered cables as well as very well soldered Wye-bridges. Also special modified rear motor supports and suitable clutches for 10mm to 6.35mm flex.

    ESC's:

    As its a SAW project the suitable ESC is the Schulze future 40.160 of the old series. And you'll get three of them to have a spare one. All of them are in excellent condition and have been this year (May 2011) serviced by Schulze. They also feature 4x additional 220µF caps and a connection for the external anti-spark device you'll get. When used with 2x 12S in Wye Connection the ESC's get barely warm.

    Lipos:

    You'll get three full sets of lipos:
    -2x 12S 5000 mAh 40C
    -2x 12S 5000 mAh 45C Turnigy Nanotech
    -2x 10S 5000 mAh 40C

    From all packs I changed the cables to 8mm² Kabel by Nessel and LMT bullet connectors. All soldering connections where checked and re-soldered carefully. All the packs are fully SAW-suitable and have great performance. For the ones who have doubts, ask Timo Heinrich about the performance of my Lipos.

    You'll also get 2x 1S Lipo as an extra. Specially configured to be able to connect them on request resulting in 2x 11S or 2x 13S in combination with the 10S or 12S packs mentioned above.

    props:

    as for sure you'll also need some props:
    -Octura X447 Andy Brown: with 2x 12S "everyday use possible" 150-160km/h and runtime around 3min
    -Octura X457 Andy Brown: tempered pair, brand new never used these
    -Octura X457 Andy Brown: special order with 1.6" pitch, run only once
    -Octura X470 red. 60mm Andy Brown: 1/4" DD, 1.4" pitch, run only twice

    hardware:

    -rudder: original HPR 135 Ruder, blank
    -drives: Special custom made by Christian "Die Feile" following my drawings. Absolutely suitable for SAW purpose, took a lot of hours to make these but they are worth the effort.

    flex drives:
    -1x set 3/16" DD
    -1x set 1/4" DD
    -1x spare shaft 1/4" DD
    -4x prop shaft 1/4" DD

    build:

    Everything is built for SAW use, motor mounts are 7mm thick with nomex honeycomb sandwich. Weight is only 45g per piece but ultra-stable. On both sides the seam is reinforced with two layers of weave. The lipo mounts feature an adjustability of around 180mm and are CNC cut out of 2mm PrePreg material. These are glued in with aquarium silicone. The servo mount is also custom made out of a mold and ultralight and very stable. The servo is a Savöx SC 1256 with titanium gear.

    additional:

    -2x rudder blade HPR 135
    -1x AVS anti spark device, in my opinion absolute necessary for more than 10S
    -8x spare bearings for the drives (made in Germany), 4x normal, 4x flanged
    -Catpower emergeny cutoff-System
    -antenna mount for 40MHz antenna oder 2.4Ghz


    performance (everything in Wye-configuration):

    -2x 10S, Octura X457: 175km/h TopHeat lt. SAW Messung
    -2x 12S, Octura X457: 192km/h TopHeat lt. SAW Messung, lt. GPS very close to 200km/h
    -2x 13S, Octura X457: 208km/h lt. GPS
    -2x 12S, 60mm custom props by a friend: 210.2km/h, measured with two indepented GPS

    price: 7000$ asking price + shipping
    (shipping in 2-3 seperated and insured parcels, worldwide possible)

    A function guarantee is not possible any more in this class but the setup is definitely capable of speeds above 200km/h (125mph).
    The use is on your own risk, acceleration and performance are extraordinary

    Video 1
    Video 2

    Best regards,
    Manuel









  • domp444
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 846

    #2
    Wow, looks awesome! Good luck with your sale, Manuel.
    SV27 w/ Ammo 2300 / Stock ESC || Pursuit w/ Leopard 4074 2200kv / SeaKing 120a ESC || MHZ Drambuie on Ice w/ 2x Schulze 4.160wk's / 2x Neu 2215 1.5y's

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    • Grazacind
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2011
      • 328

      #3
      Manuel I would love to see this come and play down under. Might just have to sell one of the kids. Great boat mate and good luck with the sale.
      Andrew
      Find it + Buy it + Twin it + Run it = WOOHOO

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      • ManuelW
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2010
        • 756

        #4
        Thanks for the comments. Well I'll see if I can sell it.

        If you have any questions or maybe want only parts of the "full package" feel free to ask!

        Best regards,
        Manuel

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        • jevmax
          Legend
          • Aug 2007
          • 368

          #5
          I would be interested in buying all three of the 40-160 speed controls and the hull & hardware, if you decide to part it out. Just contact me and let me know.

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          • ManuelW
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2010
            • 756

            #6
            Hello,

            well if possible I'd try to sell it as a full package first. If you look through the list of the parts and what you'll get I think its quite a good deal for the money.
            To get a better impression here a ZIP with much more pictures of the boat:


            @ Jevmax: I'll keep your offer in mind. You can also send me a price offer for the hull with hardware and the three Schulze ESC's if you like.

            Best regards,
            Manuel

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            • ManuelW
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2010
              • 756

              #7
              massive price update: 5900 USD with 2x Schulze 40.160WK plus shippping worldwide

              Best regards,
              Manuel

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              • ManuelW
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 756

                #8
                Boat is still for sale. Serious price offers are welcome.

                Price without the ESC's is 4750$ + shipping

                Have a nice evening,
                Manuel

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                • Boatcrazy
                  Member
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 55

                  #9
                  Excuse the language
                  Holly Sh-t

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                  • Drax21
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 1021

                    #10
                    Manuel takes RC boats above and beyond. Maybe one day I will be able to afford one of his boat without any bother.... for now I just watch in amazement.
                    Everything that has a beginning, has an End

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                    • sigelitest
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 329

                      #11
                      Anyway we can see the water skiing squirrel behind this boat?

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                      • Drax21
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 1021

                        #12
                        I would get my Jack Russell to sit on the front so the boat doesn't lift too much.
                        Everything that has a beginning, has an End

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                        • tagasagwan
                          Molino Boater!!!
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 990

                          #13
                          That's a dream boat for sure! Wish I have the greens for even 1 of the schulze 40.160
                          My Aquacraft SV27's old Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoTm4Btz41Q
                          MHZ Micro Iceberg, Skunksworks Gen2 Cat twin, Aquacraft SV27, SM29 1515 sold.

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                          • Gary
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 1105

                            #14
                            O !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....................my !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....................god !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is why i love this sport. That is fantastic. Great job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                            PT-45, 109mph, finally gave up after last bad crash
                            H&M 1/8 Miss Bud 73 mph
                            Chris Craft 16 mph

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                            • ManuelW
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 756

                              #15
                              Again big thanks for the credit guys, makes me blush. Just wanted to let you know the boat is actually sold. Maybe I'll build another SAW HPR 135 in the future.

                              Have a nice day,
                              Manuel

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