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  • Doug Smock
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    • Apr 2007
    • 5272

    #46
    Originally posted by Doby
    I'd hate to think some folks would be turned away for a few extra mah.
    That may happen this year. My old 5000s are letting go and are being replaced with 5200s.

    Out of curiosity, what's the procedure for batteries that have had the original labels / heat shrink removed?
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    • Doby
      KANADA RULES!
      • Apr 2007
      • 7280

      #47
      Originally posted by Doug Smock

      Out of curiosity, what's the procedure for batteries that have had the original labels / heat shrink removed?
      Personal integrity.

      Of course anyone who thinks a couple of hundred extra Mah capacity is going to win them a race is delusional.

      Perhaps the rules need to updated to state that only factory labeled packs can be used.

      I have both 5800Mah , 4200Mah and 5000Mah packs that could be used on 2P setups...oh the horror...there's a possibility of over 10000mah capacity. I also have some HV packs (but no HV chargers) EEEKKKKK!!!!!!!!. Guess Terry's going to be busier than a one armed wall-paper hanger at Michigan this year....checking voltages, capacities, labels, underwear color, etc.....

      Just another reason NAMBA and IMPBA needs to have a group hug and get their collective *!***!***!***!**z together on a standard set of rules for FE.
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      • photohoward1
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Mar 2009
        • 1610

        #48
        Originally posted by Doby
        Checking Kanadians packs voltages is a waste of time, we're the most honest people on the planet. Southerners though...well that's a whole different ball game....they've always got a extra cell up their sleeves.
        How is Canadian voltage checked? Is that USA Voltage or Canadian Voltage? I get so confused with the metric system.

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        • Doug Smock
          Moderator
          • Apr 2007
          • 5272

          #49
          lol Howard.
          Doby, my Kanadian friend. I understand integrity.
          But what about the guy that buys legal batteries with the paper labels that struggle to outlast a fart in a windstorm? Or the guy that removed heat shrink to dry out legal packs that have been wet? There are legitimate reasons why packs may not have the original data on them.
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          • Brushless55
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            • Oct 2008
            • 9488

            #50
            Originally posted by Doug Smock
            lol Howard.
            Doby, my Kanadian friend. I understand integrity.
            But what about the guy that buys legal batteries with the paper labels that struggle to outlast a fart in a windstorm? Or the guy that removed heat shrink to dry out legal packs that have been wet? There are legitimate reasons why packs may not have the original data on them.
            I agree, this is a good question ....
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            • TRUCKPULL
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Apr 2007
              • 2971

              #51
              Originally posted by Doug Smock
              But what about the guy that buys legal batteries with the paper labels that struggle to outlast a fart in a windstorm? Or the guy that removed heat shrink to dry out legal packs that have been wet? There are legitimate reasons why packs may not have the original data on them.
              Doug

              If you have to re-shrink your packs-- Use clear shrink
              Even the packs from China have electro printing on every individual cell, stating the capacity.
              This now can be read through the clear shrink.

              Larry
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              • Doby
                KANADA RULES!
                • Apr 2007
                • 7280

                #52
                Originally posted by Doug Smock
                lol Howard.
                Doby, my Kanadian friend. I understand integrity.
                But what about the guy that buys legal batteries with the paper labels that struggle to outlast a fart in a windstorm? Or the guy that removed heat shrink to dry out legal packs that have been wet? There are legitimate reasons why packs may not have the original data on them.

                Back to that integrity thing.......

                Screw it...easier to switch to gas/nitro.
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                • Doug Smock
                  Moderator
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 5272

                  #53
                  It was a hypothetical question Larry. But perhaps it should be addresses before it becomes a problem for some poor guy that has traveled 12 hrs. to a race.

                  FWIW the GP and Revo packs I tossed last year had no data on the cells unless it was turned in.
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                  • Doby
                    KANADA RULES!
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 7280

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Doug Smock
                    . But perhaps it should be addresses before it becomes a problem for some poor guy that has traveled 12 hrs. to a race.

                    .
                    That's exactly what I was getting at.

                    Is he going to be turned away for the sake of a few Mah?

                    To more or less quote some schmuck that's on here quite a bit..."they're only toy boats fellas"
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                    • Doug Smock
                      Moderator
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 5272

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Doby
                      That's exactly what I was getting at.

                      Is he going to be turned away for the sake of a few Mah?

                      To more or less quote some schmuck that's on here quite a bit..."they're only toy boats fellas"


                      That's not an exact quote, but close enough. lol
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                      • T.S.Davis
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                        • Oct 2009
                        • 6221

                        #56
                        Haha. You guys realize that this was the exact motivation for me having asked the question?

                        Some NAMBAnians are actually racing at Legg this weekend. Maybe we'll get some more thoughts after.

                        Let's not get bogged down with how the rule IS and focus on the truth. The truth is that there is no reason for them to be different. That's the collective hug John was talking about. Like I said, I race both orgs.

                        Maybe I'll just write a proposal. On paper I'm D2 director again with Fred retiring.

                        Nobody has sited a reason the limit should still be there. We just need some smarter way to deal with twins. That could get out of hand pretty quick.
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                        • Doug Smock
                          Moderator
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 5272

                          #57
                          Originally posted by T.S.Davis

                          Some NAMBAnians are actually racing at Legg this weekend. Maybe we'll get some more thoughts after.
                          Yes and I noticed some of those paper label packs in one of the boats. I sure hope for records sake that they could still read the capacity on them.
                          I'm confident that the issue is in good hands.
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                          • Brushless55
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                            • Oct 2008
                            • 9488

                            #58
                            ........
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                            • Brushless55
                              Creator
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 9488

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Doby
                              That's exactly what I was getting at.

                              Is he going to be turned away for the sake of a few Mah?

                              To more or less quote some schmuck that's on here quite a bit..."they're only toy boats fellas"
                              exactly.. I have several 5100mah and 5500mah 4s packs
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                              • TRUCKPULL
                                Fast Electric Addict!
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 2971

                                #60
                                Originally posted by T.S.Davis
                                Haha. You guys realize that this was the exact motivation for me having asked the question?

                                Some NAMBAnians are actually racing at Legg this weekend. Maybe we'll get some more thoughts after.

                                Let's not get bogged down with how the rule IS and focus on the truth. The truth is that there is no reason for them to be different. That's the collective hug John was talking about. Like I said, I race both orgs.

                                Maybe I'll just write a proposal. On paper I'm D2 director again with Fred retiring.

                                Nobody has sited a reason the limit should still be there. We just need some smarter way to deal with twins. That could get out of hand pretty quick.
                                Terry

                                What about the HV Cells they are way above 3.70V nominal.

                                Larry
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