Scale

[Speed810]

So you consider the 56mm a soda can...LOL

[Todd Fleury]

Yes, I consider a 56mm a soda can.

[Doug Smock]

Hey Doug...was running an cupped X450(3) and when I blew everything I was running a cut back X452(3).
I had run the 452 one other time and it had really come back hot, but did pick up on some speed. Had Mark Shouland cut some diameter out to cut down the blade area. But it was just to much I guess.

I made the right choice in Michigan. I'll take a second, third, or whatever over smoke any day. lol Some of the guys may remember I'm a "Stator friendly racer"

I agree on the soda cans Todd.
I was a rent a driver in 60 scale before I ever ran a FE scale. It was the driving and gentlemen aspect of the class that got me hooked.

[Speed810]

Well guess I'll stick with the slug 1527 motor. Don't really have any place to go.
Let me make clear guys I am with ya on the gentlemen's class thought. I don't want anything that is going to be scary fast. Just competitive. I know this boat is at least 2 to 3 pounds heavier than your Squire Shop Doug and I've seen video and that is a fast boat along with being a beautiful piece of work. And I know even Todd's Peter&May is also a lot lighter than my Elam. Just a shame that I have all this work and money into it and really can't race it with the current power limitation. I love to build and run these scale boats...

[Doby]

Yeah, you need a 56mm motor.

TP works. I had an SSS 5684-1200kv motor in a heavy 40" mono on 6S2P. Ran great and cold. It was a setup to beat on. Almost wish I kept it but too damn big for me anymore. I could crank 57mm props without breaking a sweat. Shoulda kept the motor at least and put it in a Whip 40.

Is that the motor i bought off you a few years ago?

[Doby]

Not sure why everyone refers to it as a gentleman's class...whenever they hit the water, its pedal to the metal....although we do usually shake hands before and after each heat. Other than that it business as normal.

[Doug Smock]

Well guess I'll stick with the slug 1527 motor. Don't really have any place to go.

Probably going to get pounded for saying this but it would be great if you guys did some real life testing in your club this year.

[Speed810]

HAHA...Doug Not going to do any pounding.....

You talking just experimenting with different set ups to gather some data for possible rule changes down the line?
Could be possible!!.....

[Doug Smock]

HAHA...Doug Not going to do any pounding.....

You talking just experimenting with different set ups to gather some data for possible rule changes down the line?
Could be possible!!.....

That didn't come from me. LOL Terry brought it up.

[T.S.Davis]

Well if it's just a gentleman's class lets not race them. Just put them in the same turn together and take cool pictures.

The purpose of the class? The intent was to race them. I know what the intent was when Ken and I proposed it.

The motor list didn't put scales on every IMPBA pond. It also didn't make FE boats comparable to nitro resulting in them being run together all over the place.

The lack of a motor list didn't put NAMBA scales on every pond. It also didn't result in 80 mph scales.

Both approaches failed to put take scale mainstream.

Gonna have to stew on this some. My hunch is that the lack of participation has nothing to do with the motors. It's all about the effort required to put one on the water. It aint fer everyone. The point is to put boats on the water. That's the "purpose".

Keeping the motor list keeps the cost up and actually eliminates some boats from competition entirely. Is that good for the class?

Another way to look at it too.......who cares? There are maybe 2 dozen of these from coast to coast. The only NAMBA regular heats are in MI and the only regular IMPBA heats are never. So why all the hand wringing over motors? "Oh, gotta keep the motors dinky for that scale appearance" Paul said the math should put us around 70. We're not there on the oval. More like mid to upper 50's.

Maybe FE scale should be under 10s and scale. Then we can stop pissing and moaning about motors. Someday I'm going to build an 8255 on 6s for spite.

[Doug Smock]

LOL Terry! Yes, let's stew on it some.

[Todd Fleury]

I agree that the boats are meant to race. But you have people like Thomas Schlarb that are boasting 70+ all day using a TP 56mm motor in his scale. We also don't race them like we race every other class. We are not running deck to deck with these things.

[Todd Fleury]

If MMEU agrees, I am willing to drop the motor requirement for scale this year as a trial run. I'll just drop in a 3060 in my T-4 and see how it goes.

[ray schrauwen]

Is that the motor i bought off you a few years ago?

that was a 5694. I liked the 5684 a bit better.

[Doug Smock]

We also don't race them like we race every other class. We are not running deck to deck with these things.

That was my experience racing the 60s.
The guys have a little different mentality that some of the other classes. I'm the same way. I won't try to stick a scale (mine or someone else's) in a hole that I might with a mono etc. Way too much time and money to risk! And for what? A bowling trophy.

That's what gentleman's class means to me. Your results may vary.