SEI question for IMPBA

[T.S.Davis]

To get single event insurance for IMPBA do I have to be a NAMBA member?

Terry mentioned that we should bring our NAMBA cards to the Can Am if we are doing SEI. Doesn't make sense to me. A first time racer has to join one or the other? I'm corn fused.

[T.S.Davis]

I tried to look at the form but none of the links from the website work.

[T.S.Davis]

Yikes. All of their links are booger'd up. Sure it's on the mend list.

[longballlumber]

All worked fine for me...

Looks like the answer to your question is - YES

H. Paid members of other boating organizations may pay $15.00 for a Single - event membership, allowing running in that event only. The application and payment must be mailed to the IMPBA office by the host club the first working day after accepted.

Chapter II - H

http://nebula.wsimg.com/ff8fe92fb6067f2d278e4b478e69cf4e?AccessKeyId=ACA7381D2BFC72351748&disposition=0&alloworigin=1

[T.S.Davis]

So a walk up that's never raced before has to join IMPBA to even give it a try. That's insane.

Hey....now that I'm a member I can actually have an opinion.

[longballlumber]

geeze... chill out. I think most would agree the rule isn't there to keep people out.

What are the chances that someone is going to "walkup" to A RACE that is interested in "giving it a try" that has had zero contact with a club, a club member, didn't see a flyer stating that it was a sanctioned event etc...

Outdated or not; your missing what the original intent was WHEN IT WAS WRITTEN.

I am willing to guess the rule was written BEFORE the inception of RTR boats.

[Doby]

So a walk up that's never raced before has to join IMPBA to even give it a try. That's insane.

Hey....now that I'm a member I can actually have an opinion.

You're now an IMPBA member???? There goes the neighborhood!

[T.S.Davis]

I'm not all irate here Mike. It's a silly rule and/or out dated. Should be changed.

"Hi, welcome to Burger King. First time hamburger eater?
"Yes"
"Before you order, please go down the street to McDonalds and buy a meal."
"Wait, what? Why can't I just buy a hamburger from you? Never had one. I just want to try it."
"You can but not until you buy theirs' first."
"But I'm right here and I just want to taste it."
"I know but we made that rule back when it was unlikely that someone would come in having not already eaten at McDonalds"
"We could sell you a whole meal though. It only costs 4 times what a hamburger costs."
"Just to try a hamburger? What if I don't like it?"
"Not my problem sir"
"So I go down there, buy an entire meal for $50, then come back here and buy a hamburger for $15?"
"....or you buy a whole meal from us for $60. See how we save ya $5!"
"Now I see........."

bahahaha

Or leave it. I'm just some fool on the internet.

John, I am. I knew I was hitting multiple IMPBA events this season so I caved. Tyler will be shortly.

Got to meet Chris Rupley last month. Seemed like one of the good guys to me. Think he came up to watch the train wreck that is MMEU. It's funny to me that at a NAMBA event we had IMPBA's President, Vice President, and FE Chairman, and Records Chairman in attendance. Who says we can't all get along? Kevin didn't even try to break me in half ner noth'n.

[longballlumber]

I'm not all irate here Mike. It's a silly rule and/or out dated. Should be changed.

"Hi, welcome to Burger King. First time hamburger eater?
"Yes"
"Before you order, please go down the street to McDonalds and buy a meal."
"Wait, what? Why can't I just buy a hamburger from you? Never had one. I just want to try it."
"You can but not until you buy theirs' first."
"But I'm right here and I just want to taste it."
"I know but we made that rule back when it was unlikely that someone would come in having not already eaten at McDonalds"
"We could sell you a whole meal though. It only costs 4 times what a hamburger costs."
"Just to try a hamburger? What if I don't like it?"
"Not my problem sir"
"So I go down there, buy an entire meal for $50, then come back here and buy a hamburger for $15?"
"....or you buy a whole meal from us for $60. See how we save ya $5!"
"Now I see........."

bahahaha

Or leave it. I'm just some fool on the internet.

John, I am. I knew I was hitting multiple IMPBA events this season so I caved. Tyler will be shortly.

Got to meet Chris Rupley last month. Seemed like one of the good guys to me. Think he came up to watch the train wreck that is MMEU. It's funny to me that at a NAMBA event we had IMPBA's President, Vice President, and FE Chairman, and Records Chairman in attendance. Who says we can't all get along? Kevin didn't even try to break me in half ner noth'n.

Well this is/was constructive....

(With a shaking head) Sometimes I really wonder if good-ole Inter-web has helped model boating as much as people think has/does... I need to find a way to keep myself from getting sucked into these discussions/comments. I need to fight my inner desire to give input...

Going back to my hole...

[T.S.Davis]

your missing what the original intent was WHEN IT WAS WRITTEN.

I guess you're right. I don't know what the intent was. I've only been an IMPBA member for couple months so I don't know the history.

Once upon a time you could only run Sub C sized cells. That limitation is what kept both organizations from moving on from Nimh to Lipo. I know what the original intent was on that. It had to be completely changed. It was a do over. The internet was the medium through which that change was refined. So yes, IMO it's been good for model boating.

Rules evolve because they don't make sense or their original "intent" no longer applies.

I made light of it with my silly post because the rule is just as silly.

I have learned something though. No more observations on IMPBA. That much I got.

[Fluid]

Shut up Terry, no one wants to hear you rantings here. I guess the other poster is right, the Internet will be the death of model boating.......

Late comers!


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[Doby]

Hey Terry:

Could your Michigan club be considered as a "boating organization"?? You pay club dues? Have membership cards???

Might be all you need to meet the requirement...

Just a though from my logical Kanadian mind.

[Doug Smock]

No membership no insurance. Is NAMBA any different?

It's not an outdated rule it protects the organization and the membership.

There is some discussion at the BOD level about a small fee to allow a "walk up" to participate at a club level event. However, the participant will not be allowed in the hot pits and must be accompanied by a member at all times. Nothing was finalized but IIRC when it is it will go out to the membership for a vote. Look for it in the Dec. Roostertail.

While were on the subject I think it's total that a NAMBA member can participate in as many IMPBA races as he wants to for $15.00 per event but a IMPBA member can only race in one per year then has to join NAMBA. There is something you can go to work on Capt. Fantastic!!

[T.S.Davis]

Once you sign the single event insurance application at a NAMBA gig you are insured for that event. Is that not the case for IMPBA? Maybe that's the difference. I hope IMPBA isn't thinking NAMBA insurance will cover NAMBA racers at an IMPBA event. I'm 99% certain it won't. I've been wrong before though.

I agree, that's crap that you have to join NAMBA after one SEI. That's a dumb rule too. It makes sense for both orgs to sop up as many single events as us idiots are willing to pay for. They should at least allow us to continue purchasing them until we've reached the same dollars as a membership. Doug, um.....you know I'm just a NAMBA member right? I retired from working.

I'm a member of both now so it doesn't matter to me personally but does the application require that this "other" organization have insurance?