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It ain't for everyone. But, we can limit entries and heat numbers and fix that. How much or little do guys want to race? (work)MODEL BOAT RACER
IMPBA President
District 13 Director 2011- present
IMPBA National Records Director 2009-2019
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I was worn out myself, and all i did was talk on the mic all day! 75 heats a day is perfect....Comment
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75 FE heats will likely kill guys. Doug and I talked about this a little bit. I think he asked "think we could pull this off in 2 days?". The AMB could absolutely do it but FE at large probably couldn't. You guys pulled off 110 and it never really seemed like we were going that fast. Both the crew and the racers seemed to handle it flawlessly. The fatigue really only hit me personally later on.
This is where an all FE race gets weird though. With a mixed race if you race say 5 classes you get a heat of electric, then a heat of fuel, then back to FE. So there is about a 5 minute window before you have to get back to the water. It's freakn' perfect in truth. At an all FE race you could run 5 classes in a row. Even if you aren't in 5 consecutive classes the guy standing next to you is probably in the classes that you aren't and needs a pit. It's like being back to back to back for every heat. That time you were going to use to unload the batteries and get them on charge vanishes. Maybe grease a shaft. Or holy crap if you break something. You're racing or up on the stand for every heat. Things get missed easy. Next round comes and you're way behind or have to scratch.Noisy personComment
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Good points Terry, i've never actually been to an FE only race, but I can see understand your concerns. I was just saying, in terms of hours in the day based on time it takes to actually run heats, 75 is more than enough for a day, not taking into account the challenges of an all electric race. Im sure we could work it out to where it was manageable.
I have been to a bunch of all outboard/tunnel hull races, and there are some of the similar challenges (pit help, back to back to back), but we make it happen.
How many realistic entries would a race like this bring in?Comment
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Yep, remember the conversation well. That's why the first post reads like it does. I'm all but certain a three day race is a no go. We hate to have any conversation with the site owner, we are a fly at their picnic, less is more kind of thing.
We can turn down the PA, stick a sock in the horn for the clock, but honestly I don't think the noise is his problem. His employees all but line the bank on the far side of the pond. The windows are full of faces.
I wonder if any crop dusters fly from the NE to Sycamore Ga.??
MODEL BOAT RACER
IMPBA President
District 13 Director 2011- present
IMPBA National Records Director 2009-2019
IMPBA 19887L CD
NAMBA 1169Comment
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Who knows. Kinda why Doug was asking I think. Who would come for real? If he approaches his gang with the idea and then we get 75 entries that would suck.
I know some of the guys that say they'll come actually will. You can count the usual suspects up but yer never sure with guys you haven't already traveled with. The reugular race junkies will be good for 75 to 100 I would think. Some times the trip sounds great and then wives get wind of it. hahaha Then of those that will drive or fly......how many boats are they willing to run. My kid was just telling me "Dad, I think 5 classes is plenty". He's of course utterly and completely full of crap. It will be 13 before these guys have can even confirm they want to do it.
In my tiny brain, I'm thinking the location would work to their advantage. It's kind of in the middle. PAGS might be the worst drive and it's still not insane. We could start working on the OSE boys (nudge nudge). Maybe the guys from Indiana. Owen is going to be better than the old man.
We gotta find a way to express how much stupid fun these things are. I'm still afraid the law will find out and descend upon us.Noisy personComment
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I would rather be limited to an entry limit per driver where I would pick the boats I felt were my best rather than just running everything I own. That way the level of competition will be concentrated in heats. FE boaters tend to have a lot of boats. Maybe cause they all run. We bring 12 nitro boats to a race and end up running 6 in the last round.
Again consider a lot of unattended charging of batteries. Not everyone has 3 sets of cells per boat. I must be getting old worrying about safety.
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Mic Halbrehder
IMPBA 8656
NAMBA 1414Comment
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We gotta figure out a way to spread the love sorta speak. If we keep fishing in the same pond we are keep catching the same fish. Logistically speaking the ATL pond is SUPER convenient with the airport VERY close. We actually my be able to attract some guys from Texas, Arizona, Washington, and California. The MI pond in Leonard isn't as convenient on that front.
With regards to number of heats and number of days. If the host club can only manage a 2 day event then the racers are responsible for signing up the appropriate number of classes they can manage for a 2 day event. You will be hard pressed to convince me those guys that enter a bazillion classes couldn't stand leaving 2 or 3 boats at home! The host club cannot be held responsible for racers that enter more classes than they can handle; all the while knowing the event requires a reasonable pace to finish in their available time frame.
flame suite on!
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More thinking out loud....
With the ATL site specifically there are some challenges with racing during the week due to the local business. It looks like running FE boats starting at noon on Friday's is acceptable... Why can't we start heat racing at noon on Friday? Open water is a gift, not a requirement. That would be an extra 6-8 hours of heats that can be completed.Comment
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No flame suit required Mike. It's so easy to get carried away signing up for everything everything everything. I've done it too. What we "should" be doing is signing up for classes we're actually good at. It's a nats. We had boats at our race that were really fast that guys had no heat laps into.
Spencer park doesnt have open water. Attendance hasn't really suffered.Noisy personComment
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I would try to make it particularly if we can run some Q or T classes.
"open" is not allowed at a Nats?Tyler Garrard
NAMBA 639/IMPBA 20525
T-Hydro @ 142.94mph former WRComment
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Well yeah he is........but don't tell him.
We are interested for sure, it's a long way out, we struggle planning tomorrow never mind that far in advance. We have two main issues, time off work and wives. But assuming that the later are not issues, for sure we would come play boats. Its always a good time hanging with you guys.Comment
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