2019 IMPBA FE Nats Atl.Ga. feeler thread

[madmikepags]

Lets look at #'s of heats, and assume we do the shootout format. lets say there's 7 classes a day, and you pick what would be the 14 most popular classes. You are only really running 3 rounds because the final round will only be 7 heats. You limit the # of entries per class. Obviously spec mono, sport hyd, & offshore are the most popular so you give them 24 entries, but classes like Phydro P cat Q mono Q sport Q hydro you cap at 12, P mono p sport inbetween at 18, and so on. Then there will be classes that you give 12 entries but you will really only get 1 heat. Realistically you will have 17-18 heats per round. Even if it's 20 heats thats 67 heats in a day. Doable or not doable? I have never run a big race so I don't know, but we did run 106 heats in one day at the spring nats one year. Surely us FE guys could do 65 in a day? No?

[T.S.Davis]

No, yer thinking right Mike. We've shuffled that mix 8 ways to Sunday over the years. If they do it we can help them with the shuffle. Getting the right combo of classes on the right days makes it much more doable.

The only hiccup is trying to figure out what will draw based on region. Up here, tunnel has almost no hope of making a heat. Down there it sounds like they could pull multiple flights. So there is a degree of guessing.

65 is super doable. Even for us FE turds........er racers. Hugs.

[longballlumber]

This creates a question for me... Why are the numbers so different? Using Mike's numbers above; 106 for a combine event but we act like 65 for an all FE event is a stretch? That is roughly a 40% difference.

Another question; How many racers are using the same hull for multiple classes? Does that even exist these days?

[dethow]

Another question; How many racers are using the same hull for multiple classes? Does that even exist these days?

I have used the same hull for Mono and Offshore. Just change my batteries for more mAh.

[T.S.Davis]

This creates a question for me... Why are the numbers so different? Using Mike's numbers above; 106 for a combine event but we act like 65 for an all FE event is a stretch?

It's that gap I described. For me at least. That little space in between while the fuel guys run is huge if you run a lot of classes. For the average normal guy, maybe it's actually not an issue. If you run say 4 classes in a day those little gaps might not matter at all.

Used to be that guys could run P mono - P offshore - P limited mono and P offshore with the same boat. You can still do it but the P speeds and water don't really allow you to be competitive that way. My spec mono are not set up like my P mono. You can cross over to offshore though. Just a prop change for most. Sport hydros same thing. You can run P with a specky but you'll get murdered.

Here's a question......is anyone else running FE offshore on the regular? Totally ignorant question. We dig it up here and we've raced it elsewhere but I always felt like we were bringing the class with us when we traveled. The CanAm dropped it this year. It was the only offshore class they had and is a pain in butt for them. Is it popular elsewhere? Those offshore classes are time gobbling pigs. Take longer and always require a ton of retrieve. Don't get me wrong. I love it but if it meant the race could happen in 2 days with no time issues.......

[Doug Smock]

I would try to make it particularly if we can run some Q or T classes.

"open" is not allowed at a Nats?

I'm pretty sure Open Offshore would fly.
We wouldn't have to run the whole course necessarily. Something we can talk about.

[Ty Davis]

I'm pretty sure Open Offshore would fly.
We wouldn't have to run the whole course necessarily. Something we can talk about.

Just move the offshore pins closer to the oval. None of the FE guys are going to go wide enough off of bouy 3 to hit those offshore pins.

[topfuel443]

Ill have a beast ready for "Open Tunnel" if there is an option....

[Doug Smock]

Ok guys! We have been banging our heads trying to find a way to offer this race without stepping on any toes including our own. We considered offering it in place of the Spring Nats but just can't. 45 years of history there!

September is the only time we could offer this in 2019 if the BOD approves. The weather is typically cooler by then, but of course you never know. The exact date is still open at this point, we have to poll the club.
If you really want it, we could have open water on Thurs. from noon till dusk. (This would be on me! Sooo, if you say you want it you'd better BE THERE!!) Racing would start at noon on Fri.

Lamar is an expert on nailing down time & heat counts, he's been doing it for years. The AMB can get the race in if the weather cooperates and the racers are on point. Absolutely no question about that.

Whatdayathink? Should we pursue this? Or is Sept. a deal breaker?

Thanks!!

[Doug Smock]

Just move the offshore pins closer to the oval. None of the FE guys are going to go wide enough off of bouy 3 to hit those offshore pins.

Never say never. lol We'll come up with something if there is interest.

[T.S.Davis]

Love it Doug. As I mentioned, you can count on at least part of the MMEU morons (what..... it's a term of endearment) to come down and play toy boats for bowling trophies with you guys. It being that late we might even be able to pull off both races. Who knows.

[madmikepags]

I love the idea the only issue is the dwindling daylight in sept? may june july you have sun till 8;30-9pm sept you'tre lookin at 6:30-7 but I think it'll work

[don ferrette]

Man September is tough. If I might ask without meaning any trouble whatsoever, what were the sticking points for mid May?

[Ty Davis]

Man September is tough. If I might ask without meaning any trouble whatsoever, what were the sticking points for mid May?

One of the stick points is that its, Too close to the spring nats.

[madmikepags]

and too close to the Mi Cup also, there are a good bunch of us that go to all 3 of those races, and 3 travel races in 3 months that would wreak HAVOC on my marriage!!! and not enough time to recouperate rebuild and retool and retard!!!!