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  • Brushless55
    Creator
    • Oct 2008
    • 9488

    #16
    Originally posted by Simon.O.
    If you are running above the manufacturers specs then there is no defence for running lap after lap. Some of these setups are getting close to SAW or suicide for the components. There is little difference anyway.

    :
    what I was going for is the fact venom says you can run 4s in these boats with a smaller prop, and then months later they come back to say, you cannot run these boats at WOT lap after lap...
    .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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    • NitroVal
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2009
      • 423

      #17
      Originally posted by Simon.O.


      I'm with Todd here, what have you got in there
      I did have twin Turnigy china-crap 2300kV motors running on 5S, pretty much for *!***!***!***!**s and grins. Made up over 60mph before one of them let loose. I will probably try some 13Ls or maybe some 8XLs next season..
      Originally posted by Brushless55
      what I was going for is the fact venom says you can run 4s in these boats with a smaller prop, and then months later they come back to say, you cannot run these boats at WOT lap after lap...
      Chris simply stated if you are running 4S, to keep an eye on your temps. You wouldnt put your 16 year old kid behind the wheel of that 800hp Camaro you dumped your life savings into would you? If you're a newb to boating, stick with what the manual says.
      But I guess since you've been bad mouthing this boat from the beginning, nothing will convince you otherwise, right?
      The RTR Nightmare- Electric King of Shaves
      Now with 540s- 62mph
      New setup- Etti 150A's, Turnigy 2600s, 5S, X442s and a whole lot of cooling hoses

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      • Brushless55
        Creator
        • Oct 2008
        • 9488

        #18
        well I had one and sold it before I had issues with it and it's was a nice looking boat... good looking hardware
        they guy I sold it to had issues with it on the second run on 3s
        this is not a 800hp camaro that a 16 yearold it driving?
        Like what was said and I'll say it again, venom said you can run 4s on this boat and it would run just fine months ago
        and now months later after many people have had bad motors or escs, someone now is comming back to say no you cannot run this boat like what they said you could...
        .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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        • Rumdog
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Mar 2009
          • 6453

          #19
          Agreed. this is a rtr boat. Venom suggested that running 4s will get you awesome speed. They even have video out of them (the venom guys) running it on 4s. Clearly running this setup on 4s for any amount of time over one minute will eventually end in disaster.

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          • bustitup
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Aug 2008
            • 3071

            #20
            Originally posted by RCprince
            How about a good ole' BJ motor? it's proven quality and the original 60 amp esc is more than adequate.

            very good choice...I am putting two of those in my maritimo 6s on each one but not the stock esc foe me...I may try two of the 120amp turnigy's
            SPRINT CAT 40.........BOOGIMAN 25" MONO 8xl
            EX President of the Offshore FE Vultures Society

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            • Drag Boat Bob
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2009
              • 304

              #21
              Well, I finally received my replacement motor from Venom after 4 months. No notification, communication or paperwork of any kind. It just showed up.

              Unfortunately you cannot blow much through the water jacket on this one either, which figures. I have totally given up on Venom. They talk a great story on the forums, but my personal experience with their email communication can be summed up in one word, "denial". It is always the users fault due to inexperience or failure of some kind.

              My one 2 min run on 3S with the EKOS was so long ago and produced so many negative feelings that it is still in the box where it will remain until I totally gut it with new hardware.

              My UL-1, with all of the issues it came with, produced none of the negative experiences that I have had with the EKOS and is still a fun boat.

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              • forescott
                Hopelessly Addicted to RC
                • Nov 2009
                • 2686

                #22
                Since replacing my stock motors with ammo 2700kv 380 sized motors, I am very happy with mine. I had to buy the water jackets and different motor couplers, But have run it on 4s maybe 4 or 5 times with no issues.(Keeping run times to 3-4 minutes tops) So far a top speed of 46.7mph. I feel pretty confident I can run this setup on 3s all day long without any issues. Cost= about 150-bucks total. The stock motors are cheap! Good luck with your build!

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                • Brushless55
                  Creator
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 9488

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Drag Boat Bob
                  Well, I finally received my replacement motor from Venom after 4 months. No notification, communication or paperwork of any kind. It just showed up.

                  Unfortunately you cannot blow much through the water jacket on this one either, which figures. I have totally given up on Venom. They talk a great story on the forums, but my personal experience with their email communication can be summed up in one word, "denial". It is always the users fault due to inexperience or failure of some kind.
                  My one 2 min run on 3S with the EKOS was so long ago and produced so many negative feelings that it is still in the box where it will remain until I totally gut it with new hardware.

                  My UL-1, with all of the issues it came with, produced none of the negative experiences that I have had with the EKOS and is still a fun boat.
                  sorry to hear it took so long to get it!
                  strange how all the hype from them but no true manufacture backup..
                  but they were very fast at letting us all know, when something new like props came out for it to make the sale!
                  what are your plans for it?
                  .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                  • Drag Boat Bob
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 304

                    #24
                    Initially I wanted to try and use the 3S batteries I purchased to run it (with the ARC 28:58mm motors), but I'm not sure they will produce the performance I was looking for. I guess the best way to get this thing to move is remove/replace the motor mounts and move to a larger motor.

                    I am still working on the pickle and having fun with the Novarossi in the Vegas. I really want to break the 60mph barrier, but keeping the Vegas on the water is a challenge.

                    I'm in no hurry with the EKOS (sunken cost at this point). I thought maybe some others (like NitroVal) would have experimented with the hull and report a good motor combination, but so far not many are still running...

                    I'm open to suggestions. We'll see...

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                    • Drag Boat Bob
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 304

                      #25
                      [QUOTE=Brushless55;151943]
                      but they were very fast at letting us all know, when something new like props came out for it to make the sale! QUOTE]

                      Yeah, I have two of the red ones... still in the bag...

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                      • Brushless55
                        Creator
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 9488

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Drag Boat Bob
                        Initially I wanted to try and use the 3S batteries I purchased to run it (with the ARC 28:58mm motors), but I'm not sure they will produce the performance I was looking for. I guess the best way to get this thing to move is remove/replace the motor mounts and move to a larger motor.

                        I am still working on the pickle and having fun with the Novarossi in the Vegas. I really want to break the 60mph barrier, but keeping the Vegas on the water is a challenge.
                        I'm in no hurry with the EKOS (sunken cost at this point). I thought maybe some others (like NitroVal) would have experimented with the hull and report a good motor combination, but so far not many are still running...

                        I'm open to suggestions. We'll see...
                        Do you have any videos of it running, and what motor do you have in it?
                        I have two MVs and thought about doing brushless but my UL-1 is plenty and looking to do a brushless 40 size hydro to race this season..
                        So I'm going to sell the MVs
                        .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                        • Bob Bighinatti
                          Junior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 13

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Drag Boat Bob
                          Well, I finally received my replacement motor from Venom after 4 months. No notification, communication or paperwork of any kind. It just showed up.

                          Unfortunately you cannot blow much through the water jacket on this one either, which figures. I have totally given up on Venom. They talk a great story on the forums, but my personal experience with their email communication can be summed up in one word, "denial". It is always the users fault due to inexperience or failure of some kind.

                          My one 2 min run on 3S with the EKOS was so long ago and produced so many negative feelings that it is still in the box where it will remain until I totally gut it with new hardware.

                          My UL-1, with all of the issues it came with, produced none of the negative experiences that I have had with the EKOS and is still a fun boat.
                          I know what it feels like 4 to 6 months and a nasty email after phone calls did not worke I got my $160 3s 5000mha lipo back in the middle of winter .It was out of stock I will buy batts from Hobby city
                          Bob Big

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                          • NitroVal
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 423

                            #28
                            Im too cheap to buy decent motors for mine. Maybe when the weather warms up I may try some Fiegao's. DBB, do you still need another motor? I think one of my stock ones is still good and I'll just give it to you. Otherwise, I would just ditch the stockers and bolt in some Ammo or even some Fiegao 380 12L's...
                            The RTR Nightmare- Electric King of Shaves
                            Now with 540s- 62mph
                            New setup- Etti 150A's, Turnigy 2600s, 5S, X442s and a whole lot of cooling hoses

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                            • Brushless55
                              Creator
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 9488

                              #29
                              Originally posted by NitroVal
                              Im too cheap to buy decent motors for mine. Maybe when the weather warms up I may try some Fiegao's. DBB, do you still need another motor? I think one of my stock ones is still good and I'll just give it to you. Otherwise, I would just ditch the stockers and bolt in some Ammo or even some Fiegao 380 12L's...
                              Val, I thought you have a good setup now..
                              what happend?
                              .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                              • NitroVal
                                Senior Member
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 423

                                #30
                                It was good for about five minutes... But $25 2300kV motors on 5S wont last forever. It got me to the goal I wanted, but that was it, kind of one of those "lets see what happens" moments..
                                The RTR Nightmare- Electric King of Shaves
                                Now with 540s- 62mph
                                New setup- Etti 150A's, Turnigy 2600s, 5S, X442s and a whole lot of cooling hoses

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