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  • dag-nabit
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 775

    #46
    You have options.

    As you suggested, run the OEM strut with your .187 wire drive. I run this setup on one Spartan, Haven't replaced a wire drive in two seasons. I find the strut lasts about a season.

    Or you can go to either a .087 wire drive, or .150 cable with a "standard" 3/16" stub shaft and run the OSE strut. (I'm not sure if you can get a 3/16" stub with .187 flex??)

    I run a wire drive in the other Spartan with OEM strut, with pretty much the same result, about a season out of the strut. I think the wire drive may wear the bushings a bit quicker because of the stiffness of the wire.

    Note: I find the wire drives easier to cut to length than flex cables, if required. The flex cables need to be soldered at the cutoff to prevent unraveling, and I find them very difficult to solder properly.



    Kevin

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    • Spartan
      Member
      • Feb 2012
      • 57

      #47
      Ok....Well got ahold of Jeff n he said he can modify it for me...

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      • PowerDemon
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2013
        • 351

        #48
        Originally posted by dag-nabit
        Was the OSE strut specifically designed for the Spartan stub shaft?

        The Spartan flex cable has a bit different prop stub on it than most RC boats. The measurements escape my memory at the moment, I will see if I can find them.

        The .187 cable fits the stock strut, but you do have to remove teflon liner from the stuffing tube.

        Kevin

        EDIT

        OK if memory serves the Spartan stub shaft is 5mm diameter, stepped down to 3/16" (.187") to accommodate standard size props and drive dogs. (NOTE: FYI many Chinese manufactured boats run 4mm cables, with 3/16" stub shafts)

        If your replacement strut has 3/16" (.187") bushings in it, it is possible the .187 flex will be too tight to fit.

        You can see the "step" on the Spartan Stub just to the right of the drive dog flat. This could be the difference between fitting or not.



        The "good" news is a standard 3/16" stub shaft size gives you many more options to source flex cables. The "bad" news is, it appears you are limited to .150 flex cable diameter, or, a wire drive.

        Kevin
        Love the made in USA ruler...

        Anyway Spartan you should pickup the kit from Kintec I have it and its great. Overated for stock though.
        37" Fightercat Shocker powered by Neu 1530 on 10S

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        • Spartan
          Member
          • Feb 2012
          • 57

          #49
          I would have but they didn't have n e in stock when I went to purchase... Just gotta wait some more now... It's all good...

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          • Spartan
            Member
            • Feb 2012
            • 57

            #50
            Well everything is built up ready to go... Jeff modified the flex cable for me and it fits like a glove... I've been really busy since the last post but I got the cabl back like maybe a week and a half ago and last night I assembled everything... Just gotta lube it now n charge the batteries n give it a whirl... Hopefully I will find some time to do so.. I'll post a pic of the transom later today.

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            • Spartanator
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Oct 2013
              • 1060

              #51
              I received my OSE Velcro Battery Straps, the 11.80" ones to be exact! I should "warn" you that they fit and they look darn good! They are no doubt a bit longer and wider than the stock straps but these have more stick IMO and are a direct fit! I killed a flex cable the other day, unsure what caused it yet because my strut was level and I was only pushing 1 5s pack that day. Trim tabs were level to. I was trying to stability tune since we finally had NO wind!

              Sorry Spartan, Don't mean to jack your thread....lol Ever get yours up n' runnin'?
              Why are you bothering me? I want to see your boat!
              32" CF Rivercat--- built by "kfxguy" (SOLD)

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              • Finest Racing
                In the Fast Lane
                • May 2013
                • 294

                #52
                Originally posted by Spartanator
                I received my OSE Velcro Battery Straps, the 11.80" ones to be exact! I should "warn" you that they fit and they look darn good! They are no doubt a bit longer and wider than the stock straps but these have more stick IMO and are a direct fit! I killed a flex cable the other day, unsure what caused it yet because my strut was level and I was only pushing 1 5s pack that day. Trim tabs were level to. I was trying to stability tune since we finally had NO wind!

                Sorry Spartan, Don't mean to jack your thread....lol Ever get yours up n' runnin'?
                Do you lube the cable after each time you go out? I noticed after each time out at the lake, the cable is in need of grease. Also if you hammer on and off the throttle will hurt the cable.

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                • Spartanator
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 1060

                  #53
                  I lube the heck out of it before every run, then after I clean with freshwater and WD-40 then store it on the battery compartment. I admit I can be heavy with the throttle sometimes but I was scared I would flip so I couldn't jump on the trigger...:) I still have a wire drive that needs to see some use, just gotta get the correct hex sizes for the coupler part.
                  Why are you bothering me? I want to see your boat!
                  32" CF Rivercat--- built by "kfxguy" (SOLD)

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                  • Spartan
                    Member
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 57

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Spartanator
                    I received my OSE Velcro Battery Straps, the 11.80" ones to be exact! I should "warn" you that they fit and they look darn good! They are no doubt a bit longer and wider than the stock straps but these have more stick IMO and are a direct fit! I killed a flex cable the other day, unsure what caused it yet because my strut was level and I was only pushing 1 5s pack that day. Trim tabs were level to. I was trying to stability tune since we finally had NO wind!

                    Sorry Spartan, Don't mean to jack your thread....lol Ever get yours up n' runnin'?
                    Not yet but it's fully assembled. Gotta lube the cable and charge the packs. Been super busy lately... Keep us posted on yours though.

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                    • Spartanator
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Oct 2013
                      • 1060

                      #55
                      I ordered some new lipos from SPC, 2 of these (been sitting in my Spartan bin for a month) and two of these that have are on there way!
                      I plan to have 3 5s sets, I currently have 2 5s lipos (parallel) from NeuEnergy (got em' used) and get some nice runtime to enjoy the boat. They are only 35C but 6200mah. I need to pick up some more chargers (TRX 2933)
                      Why are you bothering me? I want to see your boat!
                      32" CF Rivercat--- built by "kfxguy" (SOLD)

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                      • Spartanator
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 1060

                        #56
                        I now run a P215, ambient temps- 79F motor temp 113F.

                        I am going to switch back to an X442, less heat. Had a blast running it this weekend though, had about 8-10 runs since Friday. Multiple flip overs caused my ESC to bounce off it mounting point.
                        Why are you bothering me? I want to see your boat!
                        32" CF Rivercat--- built by "kfxguy" (SOLD)

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                        • dag-nabit
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 775

                          #57
                          I eventually put zip ties on the ESC to hold in place. Works well.


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                          • Spartanator
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Oct 2013
                            • 1060

                            #58
                            Thanks dag-nabit, I run the stock ESC (little modified) so it has it's mount points. I was running HARD and it barrel rolled twice .
                            Why are you bothering me? I want to see your boat!
                            32" CF Rivercat--- built by "kfxguy" (SOLD)

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                            • Spartan
                              Member
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 57

                              #59
                              Hey guys been awhile huh..Lol....well finally got the boat out today. Man this thing is sexy on the water... Gotta look it over though... I think I may need some new batteries. The boat went into cut off mode quite quickly real quick actually. probably 3 min in to the ride. Other than that the new parts work great. Got a nice steady flow of water coming out the sideports.. hopefully it's both of em..Lol.. andbodg have some recommendations on a good set of Lipo's I was told the ones I'm running r to low.

                              How's yalls goin?

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                              • PowerDemon
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2013
                                • 351

                                #60
                                I would suggest SPC lipos. They work very well. Another brand to look at would definitely be Revoletrix. They are as good as if not better than the SPC packs. Make sure that you get 50c or higher. Hope this helps!
                                37" Fightercat Shocker powered by Neu 1530 on 10S

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