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  • Brushless55
    Creator
    • Oct 2008
    • 9488

    #136
    Originally posted by GeoVW72
    Yea, Yea, that is the right way to do it, I guess I'm just lazy.
    not sure what you could do with the transom though, unless you do dag-nabit's mod to a t
    I was thinking of using some 1/4" door edge foam..
    .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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    • Shaun78
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2011
      • 416

      #137
      what setup did u run today to get rid of chine? I tried mine 4.5MM strut and batteries all the way back and tabs all up. little chop, chine walk YES.....Did run fast though but i couldnt hold WOT due to chine
      Genesis (Bosncali Geico Beater) Leopard 4082 1500KV
      (63.7 MPH) Traxxas Spartan (same setup)

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      • GeoVW72
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2010
        • 258

        #138
        Originally posted by Shaun78
        what setup did u run today to get rid of chine? I tried mine 4.5MM strut and batteries all the way back and tabs all up. little chop, chine walk YES.....Did run fast though but i couldnt hold WOT due to chine
        Move the batteries to mid-forward, take a little bit out of the strut angle .5-1mm.
        Loosen the strut mounts and shift the strut up and to the right then re-tighten them
        Team Boca Bearings

        S&G Design

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        • Brushless55
          Creator
          • Oct 2008
          • 9488

          #139
          Originally posted by GeoVW72
          Move the batteries to mid-forward, take a little bit out of the strut angle .5-1mm.
          Loosen the strut mounts and shift the strut up and to the right then re-tighten them

          get the hull a little wet
          .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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          • shctexas
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 156

            #140
            Brushless, thats what I used, adhesive-backed 1/4 " foam. It comes in a roll from Home Depot. I inserted it in the groove the hatch edge fits in. Also across the back of the deck, immediately in front of the transom but behind the drain hole. Its snug pinning the lid down but to me thats not a bad thing....yet. As an added measure I put a small strip in each of the lid "overhangs" (the ones Dag-Nabit removed). It works well.

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            • Shaun78
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2011
              • 416

              #141
              With my current setup I moved the batteries midforward a little...same 4.5mm strut which is slightly positive and wobble was gone but speeds were 42 but my packs were almost ready to cutoff. I can run 42-43 with no chine walk but thats not fast enough. 44 and up u get chine. maybe my spartan is maxed out and time to upgrade. I think low 50's with no chine i would be happy. maybe a T180 and Leopard 1450-1600kv is in my near future
              Genesis (Bosncali Geico Beater) Leopard 4082 1500KV
              (63.7 MPH) Traxxas Spartan (same setup)

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              • Shaun78
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2011
                • 416

                #142
                Will I be Ok if i use the traxxas high current connectors with an upgraded setup? I like to keep all my bats the same and I have some 2S that i would like to try when its upgraded but i also use them on my slash so I would like to keep traxxas connectors
                Genesis (Bosncali Geico Beater) Leopard 4082 1500KV
                (63.7 MPH) Traxxas Spartan (same setup)

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                • dag-nabit
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 775

                  #143
                  Originally posted by Shaun78
                  Will I be Ok if i use the traxxas high current connectors with an upgraded setup? I like to keep all my bats the same and I have some 2S that i would like to try when its upgraded but i also use them on my slash so I would like to keep traxxas connectors
                  The Traxxas connectors are good connectors, you will be fine with them IMO.

                  I upgraded to EC5 connectors, but only to be standardized between all my boats, not because I thought there would be issues with the Traxxas connectors.

                  Kevin

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                  • Shaun78
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 416

                    #144
                    Good run today, very windy some a little chop which turned out better. 48.0 MPH on stock setup (must have been down wind though) 4.5MM strut, Rt side tab down a little, batteries in the middle, GPS up front. 48mph
                    Genesis (Bosncali Geico Beater) Leopard 4082 1500KV
                    (63.7 MPH) Traxxas Spartan (same setup)

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                    • Brushless55
                      Creator
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 9488

                      #145
                      Originally posted by Shaun78
                      Good run today, very windy some a little chop which turned out better. 48.0 MPH on stock setup (must have been down wind though) 4.5MM strut, Rt side tab down a little, batteries in the middle, GPS up front. 48mph
                      Chop can be your friend
                      .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                      • GeoVW72
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 258

                        #146
                        ambient 48*f

                        Run#1 2x 2s P225
                        esc: 73* motor: 96*
                        Max amp: 95 speed: 39 mph
                        YT vid

                        Run#2 2x 3s
                        esc: 75* motor: 103*
                        amp: 87 speed: 42
                        YT vid 1
                        YT vid 2

                        Run#3 2x 3s
                        esc: 75* motor: 107*
                        amp: 91 speed 42
                        YT vid

                        So not blazeingly fast today.
                        I had a P225, prop did work well on 4s though
                        Maybe they should have had one on it out of the box, but I think that the power required is more that the stock NiMh can provide.
                        packs were pushed to the rear, so that is the cause of the slight chine walking.
                        Run#2 rudder needs to be square to run/cool right. Not sure why I get a dry lube squeak on the first 6s run, maybe it's the collet

                        I have setup tweaking to do, other tweaks are proving themselves quite useful though
                        Last edited by GeoVW72; 04-07-2011, 12:32 AM.
                        Team Boca Bearings

                        S&G Design

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                        • Brushless55
                          Creator
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 9488

                          #147
                          Thanks George for putting on the bigger prop while running 4s!
                          so maybe to some running 4s2p with a bigger prop could be a nice way to go with this boat?
                          10,000mah of runtimes and fair speeds
                          .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                          • GeoVW72
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 258

                            #148
                            NP BL55 happy to take any suggestions, that setup sounds pretty good. The boat didn't have the same get up and howl attitude it has on 6s and it did chew through the 5200mah pack faster than before, but any setup that doesn't burn the thing up is good in my book

                            Tore some things apart today
                            motor really stinks now

                            rotor epoxy browned a little bit and the back end of the shaft has a shine to it.
                            So had to bust out a tweak that I think should have been factory:

                            I'm hopeful a Thrust bearing can take a good load off the motor. re-lubed everything.
                            Also found some damage I missed from the stuffing tube heat

                            melted the coating off the temp sensor wire.

                            More data tomorrow
                            Team Boca Bearings

                            S&G Design

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                            • Brushless55
                              Creator
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 9488

                              #149
                              How about trying 5s on this sucker?
                              .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                              • Shaun78
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 416

                                #150
                                what the rotor supposed to look like? Geo IM me an email address and ill send you rotor photo and tell me what you think?
                                Genesis (Bosncali Geico Beater) Leopard 4082 1500KV
                                (63.7 MPH) Traxxas Spartan (same setup)

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