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  • Checkmateguy01
    Senior Member
    • May 2009
    • 376

    #46
    Originally posted by Brushless55
    depends on prop and the grade of cells of the Nimh packs
    but most likely the lipo packs will be faster because they put out more amps for the motor to run faster

    when I get mine, I'm going to cycle the Nimh packs a few times through my Revo and then try them in the Spartan and see what speeds I get vs my 4s packs
    7-cells or 6-cells? I'm curious as to how the boat is really going to run on NIMH's, that's what i'll be using the majority of the time. You can run one 2s pack and one 3s pack in the Spartan (5s) as long as they are the same MAH and C rate right?? 5s would theoretically get it to about 40mph roughly. That may be my other option.

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    • Brushless55
      Creator
      • Oct 2008
      • 9488

      #47
      Originally posted by Checkmateguy01
      7-cells or 6-cells? I'm curious as to how the boat is really going to run on NIMH's, that's what i'll be using the majority of the time. You can run one 2s pack and one 3s pack in the Spartan (5s) as long as they are the same MAH and C rate right?? 5s would theoretically get it to about 40mph roughly. That may be my other option.
      7cell nimh that the boat comes with.. I also have some better ones I use in my ERevo that I'm going to try
      I am going to run 4s, 5s, and 6s and see how she runs
      I hope to see 50mph on 5s!
      .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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      • keithbradley
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Jul 2010
        • 3663

        #48
        Originally posted by oscarel
        Ok, here's temp and amp data. Again the GPS unit didn't record. I've got to play with that a little more. I ran it on 4s until I got bored and then 6s. It took on some water today so I wasn't going to sacrifice my cellphone. 4s was a continuous run, 6s there are 3 runs. I had a Garmin 855 in and I recorded high speed of 44 but the boat was bouncing back and forth so I brought it in and removed the GPS. Second run it was also bouncing around and I found the rudder tilted up so I moved it back straight and went for the 3rd run. There is no place to hook up the eagle tree so I had a 1500 3s battery powering it and I would imagine the weight of that plus the GPS would add up almost to another 3s 5000 battery.
        What kind of problem are you having with the GPS? I ask because if its not recieving a good strong signal, it will not read accurately. I've gotten high 70's out of a 60mph boat when I had a weak signal. I notice the same in my car, sometimes going under bridges, ect, the mph will jump up for a moment.

        If you take enough readings you can tell becaue they just wont be consistant. With a good signal my RCs will duplicate the same mph over and over.
        Im not sure if you have room in the spartan, but I have put my gps inside a tupperware container that I velcro'ed to the hull in some of my larger boats. Its good insurance if you DO happen to take on water!
        www.keithbradleyboats.com

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        • keithbradley
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Jul 2010
          • 3663

          #49
          Originally posted by Checkmateguy01
          Ahhhh, OK, makes sense! So, then two 2s lipo's is 14.8 volts right?, and two 7 cell NIMH's is 16.8 volts, the NIMH's would be faster than 4s lipo, correct?
          The motor/esc will try and pull whatever current it needs to get the job done. When the batteries cant supply teh required current, the voltage will drop. The voltage will most likely end up lower with the nimhs under load.
          www.keithbradleyboats.com

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          • oscarel
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Dec 2009
            • 2129

            #50
            Originally posted by keithbradley
            What kind of problem are you having with the GPS? I ask because if its not recieving a good strong signal, it will not read accurately. I've gotten high 70's out of a 60mph boat when I had a weak signal. I notice the same in my car, sometimes going under bridges, ect, the mph will jump up for a moment.

            If you take enough readings you can tell becaue they just wont be consistant. With a good signal my RCs will duplicate the same mph over and over.
            Im not sure if you have room in the spartan, but I have put my gps inside a tupperware container that I velcro'ed to the hull in some of my larger boats. Its good insurance if you DO happen to take on water!
            It turned out that the GPS will not work if the input voltage from BEC is over 5.85 volts, I had it set at 6v. Once I searched on rcgroups and found this it works perfect now. It always worked when doing live capture connected to a PC but seemed to lock on 6v but it would never record.

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            • Steven Vaccaro
              Administrator
              • Apr 2007
              • 8720

              #51
              Originally posted by stringfly
              Traxxas recommends only a 42mm prop (max) with the stock set up. The stock composite prop is a 42mm with a 1.4 pitch. Will need to try a Octura X442 on it.

              Stringfly <>+++
              Traxxas got the carbon props from me to test that boat. If they ended up with a 42mm prop there is no guarantee that a x442 will be better. I've run a 2317.42 Graupner and a x442 in one of my race boats and the 2317.42 was faster. I'm sure someones going to ask, so yes the x442 was sharpened, thinned and balanced.
              Steven Vaccaro

              Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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              • Brushless55
                Creator
                • Oct 2008
                • 9488

                #52
                Originally posted by Steven Vaccaro
                Traxxas got the carbon props from me to test that boat. If they ended up with a 42mm prop there is no guarantee that a x442 will be better. I've run a 2317.42 Graupner and a x442 in one of my race boats and the 2317.42 was faster. I'm sure someones going to ask, so yes the x442 was sharpened, thinned and balanced.
                Steven, how much faster would you say the Graupner was?
                .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                • Steven Vaccaro
                  Administrator
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 8720

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Brushless55
                  Steven, how much faster would you say the Graupner was?
                  I dont remember. It was back in 2005 at the nats. But it was enough difference in take off speed that I had to quickly switch back to carbon. Please DON'T take this the wrong way. I'm sure I could have found a faster metal prop. I just didn't have the time to do it. I'm just trying to stop people from buying expensive props that "may" be close and not make much of a difference. Which prop is best on the stock Traxxas setup is going to take some testing.
                  Steven Vaccaro

                  Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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                  • Brushless55
                    Creator
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 9488

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Steven Vaccaro
                    I dont remember. It was back in 2005 at the nats. But it was enough difference in take off speed that I had to quickly switch back to carbon. Please DON'T take this the wrong way. I'm sure I could have found a faster metal prop. I just didn't have the time to do it. I'm just trying to stop people from buying expensive props that "may" be close and not make much of a difference. Which prop is best on the stock Traxxas setup is going to take some testing.
                    thank you!
                    I have one of these Spartans on the way
                    .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                    • JPriami
                      N4FOX
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 1675

                      #55
                      I have one on order too. I hope I'm able to break 50mph with a few changes. Otherwise it will be a bit boring.
                      Land, Sea & Air, A true RC Addict.

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                      • Brushless55
                        Creator
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 9488

                        #56
                        I sure hope the 50mph advertised, is not the tops of this thing
                        stock
                        Last edited by Brushless55; 01-08-2011, 09:38 PM.
                        .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                        • JPriami
                          N4FOX
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 1675

                          #57
                          Nah I think modding you can always make something faster. But will it handle higher speeds? That's what we will find out :)
                          Land, Sea & Air, A true RC Addict.

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                          • Brushless55
                            Creator
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 9488

                            #58
                            Originally posted by JPriami
                            Nah I think modding you can always make something faster. But will it handle higher speeds? That's what we will find out :)
                            we will find out with one of my CC1520's!
                            .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                            • tim v
                              brushless everything.....
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 166

                              #59
                              any of you guys have a water issue ? no water coming through my buddy for cooling , he is going to put bigger hose on it...
                              :canada

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                              • oscarel
                                Fast Electric Addict!
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 2129

                                #60
                                I would also let traxxas know.

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