Traxxas Spartan

[Rumdog]

Just try blowing through the lines. It should be easy to find where there may be blockage. Check the pickup in the rudder.
How is he sure there was no flow?

[martin]

I think 2 separate water lines & pick ups are much better, You seem to get less restriction when blowing through the lines than when you have 1 line going to the esc & then through the motor + you get cold water direct to the motor rather than warm/ hot water from going to the esc before getting to the motor. Also if you should get a blockage with only 1 line cooling esc & motor you can damage both the esc & motor rather than just one of them unless your really unlucky get both lines blocked at the same time. I know this from personal experience with 1 line cooling both getting blocked & frying both the esc & motor. Martin.

[Brushless55]

Fact is, if your motor is running very hot, then something is wrong
most of us have single cooling setups.. running to the esc then to the motor
so if the motor is damn hot, then either the prop is not the right size, the boat is running way to wet, blockage in the cooling line, or the motor is not the right size for the hull
heck some dont even cool their motors because they have the right motor for the job

[martin]

It had nothing to do with running wrong props/setup as the boat run perfectly well with acceptable temps for a long time. Simple fact was it got a blockage whilst running which i didnt know off & continued with flat out runs & cooked the esc & motor which was a 3000kv motor. I also wash & blow lines through after each time out but still got a blockage. Martin.

[properchopper]

Fact is, if your motor is running very hot, then something is wrong
most of us have single cooling setups.. running to the esc then to the motor
so if the motor is damn hot, then either the prop is not the right size, the boat is running way to wet, blockage in the cooling line, or the motor is not the right size for the hull


heck some dont even cool their motors because they have the right motor for the job

Water cooling, at best, provides a "safety zone" , particularly for sport-oriented runtimes. It shouldn't be viewed as a way to save/justify an over-the-limit setup.

[Brushless55]

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Water cooling, at best, provides a "safety zone" , particularly for sport-oriented runtimes. It shouldn't be viewed as a way to save/justify an over-the-limit setup .

good way to put it

[Rumdog]

It had nothing to do with running wrong props/setup as the boat run perfectly well with acceptable temps for a long time. Simple fact was it got a blockage whilst running which i didnt know off & continued with flat out runs & cooked the esc & motor which was a 3000kv motor. I also wash & blow lines through after each time out but still got a blockage. Martin.

We still talking about the Spartan here?

[martin]

So you would be happy to run your Spartan as a sport runner with no water cooling, I know i wouldnt. Martin.

[Doby]

I wouldn't do it on any boat...cooler is better.

[martin]

Any way what should i consider buying purly for sport/pleasure as most of us probably run & maximum enjoyment between the Spartan, UL1 or the Miss Geico & why. Thanks Martin.

[martin]

We still talking about the Spartan here?

Sorry, No it wasnt a Spartan. I was just giving the benifit of what happened to me with a blocked water line as i assumed some one had had a blocked line on a Spartan because they had asked under the Spartan thread. Thanks Martin.

[Doby]

Hmmm...apples, oranges and bannanas......UL-1, great boat for calm conditions and only turning right, seems the early production bugs have been fixed,,,,, Miss Geico seems to be a good all around boat from the many threads on here with a proven power train.......The Spartan is new and unproven yet,,,but seems incouraging.

[Brushless55]

So you would be happy to run your Spartan as a sport runner with no water cooling, I know i wouldnt. Martin.

uhhhh, not one person said to do so

[martin]

uhhhh, not one person said to do so

Just reference to water cooling being a safety zone, I dont think you can generalise that accross the board as some will use set ups fairly conservative & other idiots like myself & im sure there are lots of us that like to push a bit to much. Lets face it we all get the bug to go faster & faster when we know we should draw the line & be satisfied with what we have. But we never learn. I wonder whos going to be the first to blow some thing in the Spartan not being happy at 50mph & looking for more. Thanks Martin.

[Brushless55]

Just reference to water cooling being a safety zone, I dont think you can generalise that accross the board as some will use set ups fairly conservative & other idiots like myself & im sure there are lots of us that like to push a bit to much. Lets face it we all get the bug to go faster & faster when we know we should draw the line & be satisfied with what we have. But we never learn. I wonder whos going to be the first to blow some thing in the Spartan not being happy at 50mph & looking for more. Thanks Martin.

actually you can have very fast setups without motor cooling with the proper motor to do the job

When I put a CC1520 in mine I wont have the room I don't think to run a cooler, so I will see how hot that motor gets