I'm not trying to answer for Darin, but taking a wild guess, I'd say that Horizon may be aiming their battery suggestions at the stock rtr crowd, not the "hi/po modded" rtr guys who populate this and other forums. I could just imagine the well-intentioned first-time buyer being somewhat rudely awakened when he finds out how much a good set of lipos and compatible charger cost. Horizon does list some premium packs, but a few of these and a quality charger will cost more than the boat by itself, and there lies the challange for the marketing department which counts on the reasonable for what you get boat package price being more than doubled to get the most out of the boat. Quite a conundrum.
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I'm not trying to answer for Darin, but taking a wild guess, I'd say that Horizon may be aiming their battery suggestions at the stock rtr crowd, not the "hi/po modded" rtr guys who populate this and other forums. I could just imagine the well-intentioned first-time buyer being somewhat rudely awakened when he finds out how much a good set of lipos and compatible charger cost. Horizon does list some premium packs, but a few of these and a quality charger will cost more than the boat by itself, and there lies the challange for the marketing department which counts on the reasonable for what you get boat package price being more than doubled to get the most out of the boat. Quite a conundrum.
Those 1800mah are just not going to cut it, and the new guys are going to be disappointed with the results and running those batteries and something is gonna be damaged because those packs just aren't going to put out enough amps. They could/should have suggested some 5000mah nimh cells if they wanted to go that route.
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I understand and get that Tony and that's a good answer, but my concern is not over the use of NIMH cells (agree they are a great start for new guys), it's the cells they suggested (1800mah) which was my concern and my point with that question, sorry I didn't get more specific...
Those 1800mah are just not going to cut it, and the new guys are going to be disappointed with the results and running those batteries and something is gonna be damaged because those packs just aren't going to put out enough amps. They could/should have suggested some 5000mah nimh cells if they wanted to go that route.
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2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
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I don't disagree with your logic. In fact to carry it one step further I'd say that not only will performance be less than optimum, but guessing again I'd say that the first-time boatie may very likely have runtime expectations that would be above and beyond what the 1800 nimh's can supply and overdrawing these packs can easily cause some well-known problems.OTOH when Darin brought the boat to L.A. some time ago I had a chance to observe it and it is a REALLY NICE productComment
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darin mentioned that proboat and horizon had a good size shake up of personel......maybe they need to get a few boat guys there to answer the phone.....MY RETIREMENT PLAN?????.....POWERBALL
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I'll connect with Pro Boat tomorrow. Might be just a typo in the part number or something. Easily handled.Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
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Thanks Darin... Would hate to have one of our new members be disappointed in the performance of there new boat over the wrong batteries. Keep the good stuff coming, you and PB are doing some AWESOME things!Comment
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I contacted Pro Boat and they've updated the recommended batteries... Much more applicable option!
Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
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Very cool Darin. You know, had this been a thread about the Spartan on the traxxas forum, page 3 probably would have just been deleted. Haha Good to see a manufacturer wanting the customer to have the best experience, even if it does cost a sale or two.Catching Air!Comment
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any more news on this new boat?.NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8sComment
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Less wires/contacts = Less resistance = more Voltage to the motor. Also easier to charge.
On the Impulse 31, there is a long stud in the middle of the battery tray for the battery hold down. I haven't tried doing a lot of testing with a single pack just down one side, so I'm not sure how it would/could balance, but if you wanted to do away with the hold-down, and just rely on Velcro or add some straps, you could remove the stud very easily and open up the battery trays.
Personally, from my experience with this, and other monos, it might make sense to, even if you only need one single 4S pack, to put some balast (maybe a box the same size the 4S pack) on the other side to balance the boat, and also add some weight to help keep the boat on the water at higher speeds. In pretty much EVERY mono I've ever raced, as the speeds increase, you need to add weight to maintain handling. As soon as the hull separates from the water, handling goes to hell. Keeping a portion of the keel in the water, guiding the boat along, really helps handling and stabitlity, and the ability to put the power fully down!Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
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