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  • srislash
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    • Mar 2011
    • 7673

    #31
    Build a boat stand out of 1" pipe.It's irrigation pipe around here.That way you can put foam on the rails and the rails will sit inside the tunnel(my project for the day).That way the ride pads won't stick to the stock foam on the stock stand(irritating).I wouldn't bother with the tupperware lid IMO.You could just tape the hatch(highly recommended).That way you won't lose it.Oh yeah,don'tput off gluing foam inside the hatch.Do it now!Fill the teardrop and you can carve out if neccesary later.TRUST ME ON THIS ONE!!! Tiqueman can build you another but it'll take awhile to reach you and $$.

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    • srislash
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      • Mar 2011
      • 7673

      #32
      And the ride pads also seem to have a concave area.Take a good ruler or straight edge and put it on the flats and you'll see what I mean.I used automotive glazing putty on them,seems to work great,also works for squaring edges.It bonds really well and sands good to.It will take a couple of layers and dries fairly quick.I'll try to post those pics soon but think I'm running it today or tomorrow.

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      • macdon
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2011
        • 970

        #33
        Originally posted by srislash
        Build a boat stand out of 1" pipe.It's irrigation pipe around here.That way you can put foam on the rails and the rails will sit inside the tunnel(my project for the day).That way the ride pads won't stick to the stock foam on the stock stand(irritating).I wouldn't bother with the tupperware lid IMO.You could just tape the hatch(highly recommended).That way you won't lose it.Oh yeah,don'tput off gluing foam inside the hatch.Do it now!Fill the teardrop and you can carve out if neccesary later.TRUST ME ON THIS ONE!!! Tiqueman can build you another but it'll take awhile to reach you and $$.
        Oh cool, then that'll save me about $20 for both parts and a 2-week wait on their arrival.
        Yup, we're very familiar with pvc plastic pipes. If you look closely at my avatar, the custom blue & silver painted boat is resting on a DIY 1.5" pvc pipe that we just painted primer grey (as the pvc is colored blue and all my fellow boaters have pvc blue stands.....LOL!)

        Yeah, we are not used to inner lids - the typical china made boats that we have (hull, aRTR or RTR) over here have just a canopy/hatch - so we always tape our hatches down with clear tape or electrical tape. My favorite is clear "hockey tape", but we import it so its a bit pricey. We also adhere styrofoam or some sort of flotation in our hatches/canopy and our hulls have pool noodles cut to fit.

        As for the MG, I was also surprised to find a shaped styrofoam on the teardrop section of the hatch when I took the pics earlier. You can actually see the white styrofoam on that pic I posted showing the interior wooden partitions. I thought all proboat MGs have this. No?
        Well, if that is not standard - then this MG hull & canopy set continues to amaze me :)

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        • srislash
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          • Mar 2011
          • 7673

          #34
          Yup,hockey tape.Can't be that much demand for it down there.Foam in the lid eh,bas*^#@'s.That's how I lost mine,procrastination.Then used scotch tape.Doesn't hold in a 60+mph blowover.Bye GPS.Sounds like everything is well in hand for ya.Oh does it have the blind nuts in the transom,I would beef this area up a bit and dont forget breakaway screws.I can't believe the things I simply put off.Not next build,which has begun.

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          • macdon
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2011
            • 970

            #35
            Originally posted by srislash
            Yup,hockey tape.Can't be that much demand for it down there.Foam in the lid eh,bas*^#@'s.That's how I lost mine,procrastination.Then used scotch tape.Doesn't hold in a 60+mph blowover.Bye GPS.Sounds like everything is well in hand for ya.Oh does it have the blind nuts in the transom,I would beef this area up a bit and dont forget breakaway screws.I can't believe the things I simply put off.Not next build,which has begun.
            Just to confirm thru pics the ff details that came with my "hull & canopy" MG:

            pic1: Shaped Styrofoam underneath the canopy
            pic2: Block styrofoam in front of hull
            pic3: Blind nuts in transom

            pic4 & 5: I went ahead in making a pvc pipe boat stand, painted it primer grey and covered the top with insulation foam from an aircon supply store.
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            • macdon
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2011
              • 970

              #36
              The following 3 pics shows the $20 R2Hobbies in-line strut & rudder which fits perfectly in the transom mounting holes of the MG. Also seen in the pics is the gap between the stock MG stuffing tube and the R2hobbies strut.
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              • tagasagwan
                Molino Boater!!!
                • Jun 2008
                • 990

                #37
                Macdon,

                Nice work on the hull. I guess I have to step up on my current project too. Hehehe! Maybe I can drop by your house one of these days. When my sched permits. Can I touch your Geico? Hahaha!

                BTW, will the group run at the strike pond or ETON pond tomorrow?

                Stephen
                My Aquacraft SV27's old Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoTm4Btz41Q
                MHZ Micro Iceberg, Skunksworks Gen2 Cat twin, Aquacraft SV27, SM29 1515 sold.

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                • macdon
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 970

                  #38
                  Originally posted by tagasagwan
                  Macdon,

                  Nice work on the hull. I guess I have to step up on my current project too. Hehehe! Maybe I can drop by your house one of these days. When my sched permits. Can I touch your Geico? Hahaha!

                  BTW, will the group run at the strike pond or ETON pond tomorrow?

                  Stephen

                  Sure bro - stop by any time!
                  I think we would be running in Strike pond tom.

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                  • srislash
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                    • Mar 2011
                    • 7673

                    #39
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                    Hey Macdon,Here are the pics of my little extension piece.I see your gonna need one from your pics,just don't try to run a stock MG flex as it will be too short.I see your bit of foam,this is a good thing.

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                    • macdon
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 970

                      #40
                      Originally posted by srislash
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                      Hey Macdon,Here are the pics of my little extension piece.I see your gonna need one from your pics,just don't try to run a stock MG flex as it will be too short.I see your bit of foam,this is a good thing.
                      Thanks for posting your pics srislash. I am thinking of adding a longer teflon tube as an extension or replace the one that came with the 'hull & canopy' entirely to reach the strut. Then extending the stuffing tube like you've done in yours. Then probably wrap the whole thing with shrink tube.

                      I was also looking at the wooden interior tray and whether to remove it or not? I did see that the motor mount mounting holes have metal inserts which is a good thing but if I plan to use them then I still need to purchase the stock blue motor mount or attempt to make one from an angle bar.

                      I do have a spare fiberglass and aluminum motor mount similar to yours & Tiqueman's which I can use if I decide to pry off the wooden partitions. How fragile is the under hull of the MG?
                      If its fragile, do you suggest a layer of chopped or matt fiberglass from bow to transom? .........and while Im at it, add a layer to the seams as well?

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                      • srislash
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                        • Mar 2011
                        • 7673

                        #41
                        I didn't find it to be too fragile but handle with care anyways.I chopped only part of mine out back to the bulkhead where the stuffing tube comes out so that I could mount the motor close to the tube.I think tiqueman said something about heating it to help release the glue.But I didn't find it too bad as I also trimmed the battery trays to lower them.I did put some cloth down for the mount so as to disperse the load and bond it better.
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                        I would definately do the seam.I got a good deal on my RTR hull because it had a 1.5" hairline crack on the seam but once I wiped it out it grew.This is the area most have problems.

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                        • macdon
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 970

                          #42
                          Originally posted by srislash
                          I didn't find it to be too fragile but handle with care anyways.I chopped only part of mine out back to the bulkhead where the stuffing tube comes out so that I could mount the motor close to the tube.I think tiqueman said something about heating it to help release the glue.But I didn't find it too bad as I also trimmed the battery trays to lower them.I did put some cloth down for the mount so as to disperse the load and bond it better.
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                          I would definately do the seam.I got a good deal on my RTR hull because it had a 1.5" hairline crack on the seam but once I wiped it out it grew.This is the area most have problems.
                          Roger that! Will attempt to remove the wooden partitions and will glass for support.

                          One thing I noticed thou - I tried inserting my 4mm flex shaft inside the MG's stuffing/teflon tube and found it to be tight. Would it be okay to use probably 2"-3" of teflon tube on just the 2 ends of the stuffing tube? One near the motor and another one to enter the strut?

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                          • srislash
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                            • Mar 2011
                            • 7673

                            #43
                            Well I know some of the guys that have upgraded to .187 cable scrap the teflon alltogether.You have 4mm flex not .150? I changed sizes on my tubes I ordered for my CF Shocker and hope it doesn't give me grief(3/16 flex & 7mm tube).

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                            • macdon
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 970

                              #44
                              Originally posted by srislash
                              Well I know some of the guys that have upgraded to .187 cable scrap the teflon alltogether.You have 4mm flex not .150? I changed sizes on my tubes I ordered for my CF Shocker and hope it doesn't give me grief(3/16 flex & 7mm tube).
                              Yeah, its 4mm (.157?). I tried inserting it in the stock teflon tube of the MG and could only force a few inches in. Naturally, the teflon tube that came with my 4mm flex will not fit inside the MG's stuffing tube.
                              I did get to read some threads wherein teflon is not used due to binding or possible melting and ruining the flex shaft, then there are those who use teflon only on both ends or the portion of the stuffing tube that has a bent.
                              Its definitely more "free-wheeling" without the teflon tube, but would scrapping it entirely make more chances of water entering the hull thru the stuffing tube?

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                              • srislash
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                                • Mar 2011
                                • 7673

                                #45
                                I would be more concerned with wearing the flex or the tube,not sure which would go first.I snapped mine on my old mono(circa 1989)last week.Right in the middle.I'm guessing due to corrosion.Looked good to me but apparently not.Geez,12-15 years away from the hobby and I sure miss some stuff.LOL

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