Miss Geico-What Works For Me

[ron1950]

we never know what motor or prop u are running either darin lol......secrets secrets secrets ....lol.....what are you up to nowadays?

[tiqueman]

Hey Darin. the only thing Ive changed is the ESC, to a T-120. Unfortunately I do not have Eagle data on those props. Batteries I was using were Turnigy 5000mah 40C. Same batts that push my BJ26 using the same 642 I tried on the MG to 43mph. I took it as maybe it had something to do w/ hull design and not liking 6-series props. Oh well, Im still happy as heck w/ the M445. Ive got her dialed for what I need her to do. I just gotta figure out how to get a little better left turn w/ the offset rudder. She doesnt like that part of the Offshore course too much

[Darin Jordan]

I think the BJ26 is a much smaller package, which doesn't require quite as much power to go fast in a straight line. The sponsons on that boat are FLAT, so lots of lift... doesn't turn for $^@& however...

I just gotta figure out how to get a little better left turn w/ the offset rudder. She doesnt like that part of the Offshore course too much

Try dialing in the travel when turning left. You can also play with the rates to get the same feel as you have to the right. I noticed the same thing, but am able to dial in more travel and a faster rate, so it feels very proportional now.

[Diesel6401]

Looks like Jan has taken notice to the OP mod http://kintecracing.com/Miss_Geico_Upgrades.html, good deal on his part!

[ron1950]

i like the ruggedness of the kintec bracket but was too cheep to go that route....the octura off sets are still working great in my mg so far.....well i did strip a screw out of one but it was my own fault (wrong size lol) 4dollars later and i am up and running again.....

[Boomer]

Not cheap, you are a "value hunter"

Ron
I have both the Octura and the Kintec Racing bracket. After testing and then discussing the drag the lower section of the 1st generation Kintec created, I tried his 2nd generation bracket with the lower section machined out. I am very happy with the 2nd version and will stay with it. Jan is a good guy and listens to feed back from his customers.

He is making a customer rudder bracket for EKOS which made from machined aluminun and is stronger, mounts the water pick up tubes are in an improved position, not to mention it is better looking too. I am testing one on my EKOS, and if you have an EKOS, it is a worth while addition.

The Octura extensions work well too, but the bottom spacer does drag at lower speeds, but not to the degree the first Kintec bracket does.

I have a spare MG hull, so I will use the Octura spacers on it. Your not cheap, just a value minded type of guy!

I like the newest version one of the forum members has come up with that splitls the two factory brackets and moves on to the side for the rudder and the other side stays in place to hold the prop shaft. Very imaginative!

Boomer

[ron1950]

boomer why not make a twin out of your spare hull? i thought about makeing a twin but id want to make it a rocket ship and throw too much money at it....retirement sucks.....lol.....i am going to do the genius thing and get a 45-50 mph boat out of it.....

[JackBlack26]

I'm new to this boating stuff, so does the offset rudder really make that much of a difference? Or is it more of a "racing" mod?

[Boomer]

I don't think of it as a racing thing. It came about as a result of Darin Jordan suggesting that the prop wash was hitting the rudder and contributing to the bounce associated with some of the Geigos. He made his own rudder off sets, then some other fellows came up with using the Octura Spacers and Jan at Kintec Racing made up a very nice kit in his fab shop. Field reports determined that the lower portion of the Octura spacers and the 1st generation Kintec bracket were creating drag and a very cool rooster tail until the boat was fully on plane.
Thus the 2nd Generation of the Kintec bracket, and the very inovative adaptation of another forum member who moved the rudder over by using 1/2 of the original rudder bracket to support the rudder and the other 1/2 to support the prop shaft.
Stay tuned, this is a progressive forum that has some pretty smart chaps contributing which is very helpful to we newer types to the hobby. (Or to our affliction) All this has to do with making something operate to it's potential, at least that's where I am coming from. These boats are very nice right out of the box, but they can be improved apon with a few tweaks here and there. They will handle better, go faster and therefore are more fun to operate. (Or play with, if the truth be known)
I am not sure of how many of the guys actually race or just chase each other around? Dosen't matter really, as it is all in the name of good fun. Good question though.
Enjoy.
Boomer

[JackBlack26]

Thank you Boomer! This is a very informative and friendly forum and I'm lucky to have found it and be a member.

I started with a Nitro BJ26 back in 07 and played with it on and off when we used to live in North Texas which is filled with huge lakes.

Now having moved back to California where were originally from, people don't take to well to a noisy nitro boat running around in small local ponds usually found in community parks. So I just recently gave FE boast a try and I'm addicted!!! I have even made the decision to sell my fleet of land based R/Cs to fuel the boat addiction further. I made this decision because its easier to go to the park with my wife and 2 boys and let them play while I run my boat rather than going to the track, by myself, and paying to run my trucks. Also the fact that everyone here is friendlier and less "internet competitive" than people on land based RC forums(**coughRCTECHcough,cough**) makes the hobby for me much more enjoyable.

Every day I learn so much here that I don't know if I'm addicted to reading the forum more than I'm addicted to trying to get to the pond to run ether of my 2 boats! Now I've started working on converting my nitro BJ26 to electric

Thanks, everyone, for making this such an enjoyable place to troll and gather information and not just yelling at me and other noobs to "SEARCH" when we ask a question.........

Rafael

[Boomer]

What part of California are you moving to?

[tiqueman]

My opinion would be the offset IS infact a racing thing. The boat would lose a bit of speed in the turns. Offsetting it allowed it to maintain its drive throughout the course. It does not do anything in my opinion to help fix the bounce issue. I did it hoping for it to be gone and it was just as bad. Its all about finding the right trim. If your only going to sport boat, leave it inline as the steering is much much better that way.

And I hear ya on the not so pleasant folks out there, mainly land based RC. I raced cars for a bit. Worst experience I ever had in RC. People were all hush hush, would yell at you if you came anywhere near thier pit area. I had run cars for 10 years before I tried racing them. You couldnt get helpful info out of anyone at all. they would only give you false info so they would win the whole $10.00 Hobby shop cift certificate. Ridiculous. the FE boat world is 180 degrees from the car bone heads. Everone is everyones best friend and they want to see you finish the race, finish it well and will give you any and all info to make your boat as competitive as thier own, so its striclty, who was the better driver that day. makes for tons of excitement. I was very hesitant to join the local club, having that bad "race" experience from running cars. Ive got a 4 acre pond in my backyard I used to run in almost every day. Ive been out on it 4 times in 6 weeks because its now boring to me... racing or not, having more than your boat out there is what makes it exciting.

[JackBlack26]

Oh, we're already here. I grew up in the LA area, moved to San Diego in 96 after meeting my wife there, them to North Texas in 04 when the housing market in Cali was insanely expensive to buy. We waited out the bubble in a nice 3000 sqft house on a golf course community that we bough for 1/4 of what we would of payed in Cali, in Texas just about 40 minutes north of Dallas. We came back to Cali in late 07 and bought this house as a foreclosure in 08 at a reasonable price. We live in Chino CA now but we hope to make it back down to SD some day in the later future. Till then I'll terrorize the local ponds and "lakes" in my area.

[blackcat26]

OK I got bored last sunday and decided to get the Geico single going again. Been several months since I ran her. I had robbed the strut bracket off it to use on the twin and didn't want to wait til May or whenever Horizon gets em back in. I made a bracket out of some alum. angle I had and used a different bracket to offset the rudder. Ran the boat on m645 and m445 with the cc 1512 1800kv on 4s and 150a k-force esc. No bounce detected and the handling seemed pretty good both directions.

[dano1]

Wow wow wow......just got back from some hot lap at the water shed w/m-g and im really happy the way she ran with the rudder, i think i got her set pretty good....she was nose up about 3/4 on slight chop waters and getting slight air throwing a nice little rooster tail and in smooth she just was a blast to ripp, its seems to me she picked up a couple mph's and handled great in turns.....great way to end the day.........now if my prop would just get here!!!!!!!! I set the rudder up about 1/16th and have strut tube down flush with mount bracket....no more wahh wahh wahh for me, thanks so much guys for all the tips and comments, just wish there was some people i could run with around these parts now....im hooked big time!!!!!

Dano