Fixing the BJ26 Handling Issues

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  • kookie_guy
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 897

    #136
    Originally posted by rockwerks
    the tunnel is smooth only the sponsons are stepped and this is not the hull to copy it has many short comings in design that I will hopefully be working out soon
    ya he asked about the sponson steps.

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    • Jesse J
      scale FE racer
      • Aug 2008
      • 7116

      #137
      what are the things that are not good about the BJ hull?
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      • rockwerks
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2008
        • 772

        #138
        Originally posted by Jesse J
        what are the things that are not good about the BJ hull?
        bottom of the sponsons too narrow, steps not needed, hull should be rounded on the outside of the sponsons not square....................an a few other things. Before mine hits the water Im going to be reworking the hull a bunch
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        • pulser
          Junior Member
          • Dec 2007
          • 3

          #139
          TRUNKMUNKY'S Sponson Mods

          [QUOTE=TRUNKMUNKY;37823]For the hull mod I added a couple pieces of ply to cover the last step on the rearmost sponson,with good results]

          Hey Trunk, was wondering if you might go into more detail about how you attached ply to the bottom of the boat. Any pictures would be great. Your Vid looks like she corners on rails! Is that the only handling mod you made? Thanks.

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          • rockwerks
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2008
            • 772

            #140
            [QUOTE=pulser;50939]
            Originally posted by TRUNKMUNKY
            For the hull mod I added a couple pieces of ply to cover the last step on the rearmost sponson,with good results]

            Hey Trunk, was wondering if you might go into more detail about how you attached ply to the bottom of the boat. Any pictures would be great. Your Vid looks like she corners on rails! Is that the only handling mod you made? Thanks.
            The pics are in this thead.
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            • Jesse J
              scale FE racer
              • Aug 2008
              • 7116

              #141
              Originally posted by rockwerks
              A few have filled in the rear step on the hull full width. which has a big improvement on cornering stability but also has increased the drag substantially. My thought is to give it more of a tunnel hull at the rear and only fill in the flat portion of the rear step. It might be a happy medium.. the picture has the area boxed in on the rear of the hull .thoughts?

              Is this what you were referring to as pictures in this thread? Have you had a chance to see how she runs? How wide is that boxed area you show?

              Also, what do you mean by rounded instead of square? where?

              Anybody have any reason why not to get the OFE strudder instead of Fuller's cat hardware? Anybody tried a wire drive instead of flex?
              Last edited by Jesse J; 08-17-2008, 01:10 PM.
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              • rockwerks
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2008
                • 772

                #142
                Originally posted by Jesse J
                Is this what you were referring to as pictures in this thread? Have you had a chance to see how she runs? How wide is that boxed area you show?
                no, that is actually exactly what Im not going to do LOL.

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                pics of what several have done to make the hull turn better and get up on plane quicker
                an RC rock crawler lost in a sea of boat parts.........

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                • Jesse J
                  scale FE racer
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 7116

                  #143
                  Hey Propnut, what were the dimensions of the three colored arrows in post #117? I am considering constructing my own hardware using a wire drive instead. I may just manufacture me up a bracket for my Wholt's strut and monster rudder. The dimensions you found successful would be extremely helpful!
                  Thanks
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                  • Jesse J
                    scale FE racer
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 7116

                    #144
                    Rockwerks, dang, rounded hull; quite counter-intuitive. I guess I am a chine-man and am going to be incorporating a second lift-strake acting as a chine along the outside. Got any vid of how your mods perform? Does the roundness help bank her over? or how does it help. I noticed you canceled out the second step, why?
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                    • rockwerks
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 772

                      #145
                      Originally posted by Jesse J
                      Rockwerks, dang, rounded hull; quite counter-intuitive. I guess I am a chine-man and am going to be incorporating a second lift-strake acting as a chine along the outside. Got any vid of how your mods perform? Does the roundness help bank her over? or how does it help. I noticed you canceled out the second step, why?
                      Ive been talking to a few old guys in the sport and hull designers. because of the cat design the steps are counter productive (in our small versions) because the steps break up the turning edges (the inside sharp edge of the sponsons). The sharp edge on the outside of the sponson can unbalance the boat. digs into the water. (or so Im told. Im getting ready to move in a week to Washington and wont have time to complete the hull till after the move
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                      • PropNutt43
                        Member
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 62

                        #146
                        Originally posted by Jesse J
                        Hey Propnut, what were the dimensions of the three colored arrows in post #117? I am considering constructing my own hardware using a wire drive instead. I may just manufacture me up a bracket for my Wholt's strut and monster rudder. The dimensions you found successful would be extremely helpful!
                        Thanks
                        I didn't post #117 but here are the measurements I got.

                        Red arrow 2 1/4 inches

                        Green arrow 3/4 inch

                        Blue arrow 2 1/8 inches

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                        • Jesse J
                          scale FE racer
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 7116

                          #147
                          Thanks, I wasn't implying you posted, I noticed that someone asked the same question and am quite interested to see what you had. Since you have been so helpful with much advice, I am glad you have also provided these tasty little morsels of information!

                          Have you (Propnutt) had similar handling issues as rockwerks has alluded to? It sounds like you have had yours out quite a bit and you haven't made any mention of this potential handling issue.

                          How deep have you been running your rudder? I see the strut bushing is pretty level with the base of the sponsons, where I'd imagine it to be good.

                          Thanks again for so much empirical information!
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                          • hex-dj
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2008
                            • 238

                            #148
                            About handling hardware.Everyone : I just noticed that Twisted Liquid Racing Co. at www.twistedliquidracing.com has stopped production of all their aftermarket hardware products for the rtr boats including the BJ 26. They had too many problems. Eventualy they may have to shut down everything. Too bad.

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                            • PropNutt43
                              Member
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 62

                              #149
                              Originally posted by Jesse J
                              Have you (Propnutt) had similar handling issues as rockwerks has alluded to? It sounds like you have had yours out quite a bit and you haven't made any mention of this potential handling issue.

                              How deep have you been running your rudder? I see the strut bushing is pretty level with the base of the sponsons, where I'd imagine it to be good.

                              Thanks again for so much empirical information!
                              I'm sorry but have I entered the twilight zone! The title of this tread is Fixing the BJ26 Handling issues. Please read through the whole tread before posting questions.

                              And incase you missed the video link in post #75 here is how she handles with no mods to the bottom of the hull.




                              The Bottom of Prop shaft is about 1/8 inch above the bottom of the hull with just a little positive angle in the video.

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                              • rockwerks
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 772

                                #150
                                Originally posted by PropNutt43
                                I'm sorry but have I entered the twilight zone! The title of this tread is Fixing the BJ26 Handling issues. Please read through the whole tread before posting questions.

                                And incase you missed the video link in post #75 here is how she handles with no mods to the bottom of the hull.






                                The Bottom of Prop shaft is about 1/8 inch above the bottom of the hull with just a little positive angle in the video.
                                ya mean he's supposed to read the WHOLE THING!!!!


                                nice mods, Im going to go a step further in mine when I get the chance, Im going to narrow the center tunnel to widen the bottom of the sponson
                                an RC rock crawler lost in a sea of boat parts.........

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