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  • RCprince
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Jul 2007
    • 1637

    #1

    Black Jack Esc shutdown

    I tried to run a 3300/kv Bl and the Esc kept shutting down at full throttle, I'm thinking it might be the esc rev limiter thinking it's free running due to the high kv.
    Samuel Johnson - “An injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere.” William Cooper "listen to everything, read everything, and believe nothing unless you can prove it in your own research!"
  • Eyekandyboats
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Apr 2007
    • 1921

    #2
    pulling to many amps thermaling.
    the more KV the more amps. That esc is only rated for 45 amps, thats is what i have in my micro
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    • wickedgmc
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2007
      • 719

      #3
      are you running that motor on 14.8 volts? If so thats 48,840 RPM

      If that is what you are doing i would be happy there was a rev limiter and saved your esc.

      If that is the motor you want to run try running the 2 batts in parallel and you will get half the rpm and alot happier system. But you need to stay under 45 amp draw

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      • RCprince
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Jul 2007
        • 1637

        #4
        No I'm running it on 14 3600's integy intellects, which says after fully charged 20.562 volts...I assume those are unload volts.
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        • wickedgmc
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2007
          • 719

          #5
          wow, you are almost exceeding the voltage of the esc for one and your rpms will probably explode the motor as well. You are running 55,000 rpm unloaded or 67,000 rpm if you held the 20.5v. At this point your going to blow up all of your equipment!

          Question for you, how much rc experience do you have?

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          • RCprince
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Jul 2007
            • 1637

            #6
            I, use to run rc's years ago say about ten years, just getting back into as of this year, the brushless era enticed me once again. I ran that 3300 Kv in my Ep1 outboard SuperVee27 on a 4s lipo...It launches out of the water spinning a a range of props from a 632 to a 442 I had to make some trim tabs out of soft alum, so they could be more adjustable otherwise the thing would just tuck and roll all day.
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            • wickedgmc
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2007
              • 719

              #7
              cool, welcome back

              Keep a few things in mind kv multiplied by voltage equals unloaded rpm, running that many cells is not a bad thing, but how you wire them will change everything

              wire them in series will double the voltage more stress on the cells

              wire them in parallel and you will double the runtime less stress on the cells

              try running them in parallel and see how it works both packs red wire connected to the esc red wire and both packs black wire to the black wire of the esc. It will give you 24,000 rpm and run for a long time that way. Props will also play into the equation but that will be increase the heat of the equipment so you will have to keep an eye on that stuff too.

              Have fun

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              • RCprince
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Jul 2007
                • 1637

                #8
                Yea, your right, the motor and batteries were hot, but the Esc was super cool
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                • NorthernBoater
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 811

                  #9
                  I recall reading before that it is not a good idea to parallel NiMh cells.

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                  • whiplash
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 247

                    #10
                    Why?.......
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                    • SJFE
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 4735

                      #11
                      Because of the weight. It's pointless.

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                      • fshunt4lf
                        Junior Member
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 9

                        #12
                        Iam new to all of this electrice talk and I just baught the BJ 26 and Iam haveing the same problem of not getting full throttle. I can only run the boat half throttle and Iam useing two venoem 3000 nimh pluged into the speed controller. What do I need to do?

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                        • wickedgmc
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 719

                          #13
                          I believe there is a no load safety on the esc, if it see's no load it shuts off

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                          • fshunt4lf
                            Junior Member
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 9

                            #14
                            Yea but it will go half throttle in the water.

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                            • SJFE
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 4735

                              #15
                              Maybe the low voltage cutoff has been set for lipo. The esc may not be seeing the right voltage and shuting down????. IDK just a shot in the dark.

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