Darin's RECOIL 26 "N2-Offshore" Modiciations

[vincea]

Complete parts list please

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[stony30]

Yes could you please list all the parts you used?? Thanks

[Darin Jordan]

Well... the N2-Offshore motor just sold. Never ended up racing it do to just too many classes to run at the Nats.

Maybe P-LTD Offshore??

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[TheShaughnessy]

it would be fast that's for sure, might be a challenge to keep it keel side down in a 4 min offshore heat with bigger boats though.

[Darin Jordan]

it would be fast that's for sure, might be a challenge to keep it keel side down in a 4 min offshore heat with bigger boats though.

Mike, having run this... there is another benefit to the hull design lending itself to be "self-righting"... It tends to NOT go upside down in the first place!

Now, per the rules, you can't USE the self-righting feature (boat flips... sits there... you blip the throttle a few times and it eventually rights...)... HOWEVER... If you NEVER stop... If you are at full-speed, like you usually are when the boat flips, and it flips over and you just power through and get it back upright WITHOUT it ever losing speed or position or lane, etc... well.

Basically what I'm saying is that this hull seems to like to stay upright, and if you does flip over, if you are at speed, it tends to just flip right back upright and you keep going. :)

[Rafael_Lopez]

Darin, whats the blue around the end bell and the motor mount?

Also, the boat will only self right with an outrunner. I could never get it to self right otherwise, which is why we engineered the weighted flywheel. If you flip it, you'll be dean on the water for sure, but like you mentioned, flipping it is nearly impossible.

Really fun boat at the beach. It jumps really well off the waves.

[Darin Jordan]

Darin, whats the blue around the end bell and the motor mount?

Also, the boat will only self right with an outrunner. I could never get it to self right otherwise, which is why we engineered the weighted flywheel. If you flip it, you'll be dean on the water for sure, but like you mentioned, flipping it is nearly impossible.

Really fun boat at the beach. It jumps really well off the waves.

That's high-temp tape holding on the temp probe for the Spektrum Telemetry on the SR4000T RX.

Mine self-rights, or at least it did with the TP motor in it on 2S2P (10,000mAh total). I haven't tried it with this PB setup. Takes a couple of blips, but honestly, I'm not setting it up worrying about self-righting. My experience has been that, at speed, it doesn't tend to stay UPSIDE DOWN if it does flip.

[TheShaughnessy]

so basically it's like legal cheating due to verbiage which makes it not cheating ha ha. also how can you race a plastic hull? Abs means absolutely no racing
still waiting for the video with the PB set up.

I get what you are saying but I think you might have some grumpy people if they see your boat doing barrel rolls and keep going despite not being dead for 5 seconds or actually "using " the self righting feature.

[Darin Jordan]

I get what you are saying but I think you might have some grumpy people if they see your boat doing barrel rolls and keep going despite not being dead for 5 seconds or actually "using " the self righting feature.

The rules are very specific, and this boat doesn't actually have any "self righting feature"... it just happens to be ABLE to self right. It's all internal, using a flywheel and battery placement.

I write rules... BRING IT! :)

[Darin Jordan]

Video posted from above... Hard to keep it upside down...

[TheShaughnessy]

ok self righting ability. I break rules... what ? No doubt it's legal, but there will still be racers who get but hurt.

do you think it'd be much faster on 4s and a limited motor vs the set up in the video?

[Darin Jordan]

ok self righting ability. I break rules... what ? No doubt it's legal, but there will still be racers who get but hurt.

Well, it's an RTR Hull... Everyone has the equal ability to buy, build, and race all this publicly available race equipment. It's not my job, or desire, to tender to my competitions "feelings"... There is nothing illegal, in any way, about this hull, or this setup.

do you think it'd be much faster on 4s and a limited motor vs the set up in the video?

Yes... Will be able to run a much more appropriately sized prop, which, as it turns out, will help keep the boat upright even better.

[Darin Jordan]

There is nothing illegal, in any way, about this hull, or this setup.

What WOULD be illegal is if I stopped the boat for any length of time to self-right it. THAT is what the rules prevent.

But, just driving it for 4-Min, and it doesn't go upside down... that's just clean racing, just like any other boat that is on the course. The fact that this boat isn't a prone to go upside down is just a benefit of the design and balance of the package. And boats flip and land upright and keep going ALL THE TIME during these races, without penalty, so nothing new there either...

[TheShaughnessy]

Another try:

5. With the exception of boats run in the ECO Specialty Class, boats that are capable of
self-righting are not eligible for competition. If the boats self-righting design can be
disabled or otherwise rendered useless, then the Contest Director may allow it to.

So I started digging, unless I'm not understanding this correctly it actually is an illegal boat. If you removed the flywheel and turned the boat upside down and you were unable to make it self right then design would be disabled and it could be allowed.
compete.

[Darin Jordan]

5. With the exception of boats run in the ECO Specialty Class, boats that are capable of
self-righting are not eligible for competition. If the boats self-righting design can be
disabled or otherwise rendered useless, then the Contest Director may allow it to.

So I started digging, unless I'm not understanding this correctly it actually is an illegal boat. If you removed the flywheel and turned the boat upside down and you were unable to make it self right then design would be disabled and it could be allowed.
compete.

You might be right... but it's not a flywheel, it's a coupler (all one piece), and there isn't anything about the hulls features that make it roll back over, other than the battery placement, so I still see a LOT of gray there.