The official 36" zelos twin modding thread

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  • kfxguy
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Oct 2013
    • 8746

    #1

    The official 36" zelos twin modding thread

    This is an open thread for everyone to post their successes and failures and info on their modding to the zelos twin. I think the first thing that will be popular will be prop swapping. Let me start.



    I flushed my water pickups. Everything hanging in the water creates drag. It made no difference at all. None. So skip this. Just had to try it just in case. I tear drop shaped them. I'll take pics when I get home, but still skip this step unless you just want to do it.

    Pic of mine in the water

    32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was
  • arrover
    Senior Member
    • May 2015
    • 322

    #2
    Excellent! Should be a fun thread! I can't wait to share...
    ProBoat Zelos 36 Twin, Voracity 36, Impulse 31, Stealthwake 23, and HobbyKing Flowmaster Videos

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    • paulfromtulsa
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2013
      • 211

      #3
      well i ran the boat through 2 battery packs back to back. the batteries im using are spc 7200mah 70c. the temps after both packs were motor 97 , esc 88, battery 100 , and battery connectors 119. so theres room to prop up. i ran the batteries all the way to the back and only got only 58mph. then i moved the battery all the way to the front on the second pack and got the exact same results 58mph. the boat is very stable at those speeds. time to do some modding!!! also i notice that the stream of water that comes out of the outlet is not very strong so i dont believe it is cooling as well as it should be, have you guys also notice that?

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      • arrover
        Senior Member
        • May 2015
        • 322

        #4
        My temps have been low also. One of the "U" shaped water hoses on my ESC looks like it's on the verge of being kinked. You might want to check that. I may extend mine so the bend is more gentle.
        ProBoat Zelos 36 Twin, Voracity 36, Impulse 31, Stealthwake 23, and HobbyKing Flowmaster Videos

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        • kfxguy
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Oct 2013
          • 8746

          #5
          Originally posted by paulfromtulsa
          well i ran the boat through 2 battery packs back to back. the batteries im using are spc 7200mah 70c. the temps after both packs were motor 97 , esc 88, battery 100 , and battery connectors 119. so theres room to prop up. i ran the batteries all the way to the back and only got only 58mph. then i moved the battery all the way to the front on the second pack and got the exact same results 58mph. the boat is very stable at those speeds. time to do some modding!!! also i notice that the stream of water that comes out of the outlet is not very strong so i dont believe it is cooling as well as it should be, have you guys also notice that?


          Mine does the same thing. Judging by your temps and my temps, it's just fine.

          Definitely check for kinks. Stuff happens sometimes but it's better to catch it now
          32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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          • kfxguy
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Oct 2013
            • 8746

            #6
            I'm glad you guys got a baseline. Seems dead on the same speed with both of you. Now sharpen the props and let's see what it picks up. I didn't run mine without sharpened props to see but I'm guessing it will be worth your while to do it.
            32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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            • kfxguy
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Oct 2013
              • 8746

              #7
              I forgot. Over the past couple days I've been paying attention to the details. I sharpened the rudder better on it and sharpened the bottom of it too. I also noticed my props weren't as sharp as I like. I only spent about ten minutes on them. I smoothed my flexes with 400 grit and then polished with mothers. Using a drill spinning the flex is how I did it. Be careful and you don't need high speed, it will whip on you. It will smack you. Lol

              When I first put the boat together (mine is a prototype and needed some changes to get it to production status) I had to move the motor mounts. When I did, it was late at night and I wanted the thing ready for the next day so I sort of rushed it and didn't bend the brass tubes at just the right angle.....so mine eventually melted to Teflon (the motors moved on me in a crash too....my fault there but long story) I'm not sure how much drag that was creating but now it sounds tons smoother and I can tell the motors move easier. Might be worth some speed there. I also chamfered the leading edges of the drive dogs. These little things may or may not help but I'm pretty impressed with the speeds I'm getting.
              32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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              • kfxguy
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Oct 2013
                • 8746

                #8
                Arrover, what are doing to yours first?
                32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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                • arrover
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2015
                  • 322

                  #9
                  I'm thinking props like you said and we'll see how that spirals out of control. Know what I mean?! Haha! I'm fairly new to cats so I'm looking forward to learning and tweaking just like I did with my Voracity. I'm not planning any motor/esc changes for right now.
                  ProBoat Zelos 36 Twin, Voracity 36, Impulse 31, Stealthwake 23, and HobbyKing Flowmaster Videos

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                  • Rafael_Lopez
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2015
                    • 470

                    #10
                    Originally posted by paulfromtulsa
                    well i ran the boat through 2 battery packs back to back. the batteries im using are spc 7200mah 70c. the temps after both packs were motor 97 , esc 88, battery 100 , and battery connectors 119. so theres room to prop up. i ran the batteries all the way to the back and only got only 58mph. then i moved the battery all the way to the front on the second pack and got the exact same results 58mph. the boat is very stable at those speeds. time to do some modding!!! also i notice that the stream of water that comes out of the outlet is not very strong so i dont believe it is cooling as well as it should be, have you guys also notice that?
                    What you can do is tear drop the opening to the water pick up with a hobby knife a little. Just knock the paint out of the inlet and you will notice a difference. It's not restricting the water flow, judging by your temps, but if you want max flow, you would need to clean out the paint from the inlets.
                    Rafael Lopez
                    Product Developer-Pro Boat
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                    • Keagan-Z06
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2016
                      • 970

                      #11
                      Is Horizon Hobby the only place right now that has the Zelos Available? I want one baaaad!! Amain is the only site I know that accepts different shipping and billing (live outside US)
                      Proboat Voracity-E 36" , Proboat Zelos 36 Twin , Proboat Miss Geico 29" , Traxxas Spartan, Fightercat Daytona, Zonda

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                      • Rafael_Lopez
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2015
                        • 470

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Keagan-Z06
                        Is Horizon Hobby the only place right now that has the Zelos Available? I want one baaaad!! Amain is the only site I know that accepts different shipping and billing (live outside US)
                        Don't know if Steve ships Internationally.
                        http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...od=hh-PRB08021
                        Rafael Lopez
                        Product Developer-Pro Boat
                        My Facebook https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100010183246751

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                        • Keagan-Z06
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2016
                          • 970

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Rafael_Lopez
                          Don't know if Steve ships Internationally.
                          http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...od=hh-PRB08021
                          I can have it shipped to the US and then a courier to bring it to Belize. Let me try!
                          Proboat Voracity-E 36" , Proboat Zelos 36 Twin , Proboat Miss Geico 29" , Traxxas Spartan, Fightercat Daytona, Zonda

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                          • Keagan-Z06
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2016
                            • 970

                            #14
                            Never mind, order placed. Thanks for making me broke Rafael!
                            Proboat Voracity-E 36" , Proboat Zelos 36 Twin , Proboat Miss Geico 29" , Traxxas Spartan, Fightercat Daytona, Zonda

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                            • Rafael_Lopez
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2015
                              • 470

                              #15
                              My pleasure.
                              Originally posted by Keagan-Z06
                              Never mind, order placed. Thanks for making me broke Rafael!
                              Rafael Lopez
                              Product Developer-Pro Boat
                              My Facebook https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100010183246751

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