NEW Pro Boat "ZELOS 36" Twin Cat

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  • steve p
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2015
    • 4

    #31
    i think i"am going to get the 36" ZELOS, with 2 35c 6400mah 11.1v lipos, how long do think on running time???? one thing i really like, is they put 4 hatch locks
    on the boat,you doint see that very often!!!!!!

    thanks,steve p.

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    • Rafael_Lopez
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2015
      • 470

      #32
      Hey Steve,

      It's hard to say. It really depends on your driving style and the true rating of your packs. I've seen 5000mAh packs take back 55-5700mAh with th cut off lowered to 3v/cell. Our ESCs leave the packs at around 3.7v/ cell after cut off; set at 3.2v/ cell. Full throttle runs, maybe 4-4.5 minutes. Moderating throttle, 6-7 minutes, maybe more.
      Rafael Lopez
      Product Developer-Pro Boat
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      • Crash
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2015
        • 313

        #33
        I am new to boating
        for a guy just bashing around the lake with mild chop, would you expect the 36 inch cat or the 36 inch deep v to handle the waves better?
        thanks, Dan

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        • Darin Jordan
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Apr 2007
          • 8335

          #34
          Originally posted by Crash
          I am new to boating
          for a guy just bashing around the lake with mild chop, would you expect the 36 inch cat or the 36 inch deep v to handle the waves better?
          thanks, Dan
          Dan, as a matter of fact, I was planning on mentioning that. I've found sport boating much more enjoyable with these larger boats
          They are able to be run in "normal" water conditions, as opposed to having to wait for things to calm down.

          Great size, in my experience.
          Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
          "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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          • Crash
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2015
            • 313

            #35
            thanks Darin
            which style hull would you expect to handle better in normal conditions bashing around ....?

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            • Rafael_Lopez
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2015
              • 470

              #36
              Crash, a cat will mostly never handle like a V in similar conditions, since the V is cutting through the water and has turn fins which help is pivot through turns. The V will mostly always feel like it is on rails. Our cats though, tend to drift around corners because of their wide beam, which means that you can push them harder than you could a "scale" cat with angled pads. The flat bottom of the pads also allows them to lose a bit of traction through the corners to break the rear end loose, again, allowing you to push the boat harder through the corners with less fear of flipping it. As far as general bashing, I feel about 6" chop will be both boat's limits. You can possibly get away with running in rougher conditions if you run length wise, etween the waves, rather than against/over them with mostly any boat.

              A V will seem/look to be faster than a cat will, with the equivalent power system. I don't know why, but that is the way it seems to me. But the fact is that a cat will always be faster with the same power system of a V. For example, If we would have made this a single drive boat, and just thrown the motor from the Voracity, it would have easily been 5-10 mph faster than the Voracity, out of the boat. The load on the ESC would have typically been less as well. This is because the V is cutting through the water and the cat is skimming over it.
              Last edited by Rafael_Lopez; 01-31-2016, 06:01 PM.
              Rafael Lopez
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              • Crash
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2015
                • 313

                #37
                Excellent explanation Rafael.

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                • jaike5
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 561

                  #38
                  Rafael,
                  6' chop is for the real boats, I think you meant 6" chop. These new boats look great, and clearly fill a void. Will the 36" cat be offered in a single motor version ?

                  Cheers, Jay.

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                  • Rafael_Lopez
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2015
                    • 470

                    #39
                    Jay, thanks for catching that typo. 6" is correct.

                    As for a single 36 cat, I can definitely say no right now. It would be a direct competitor to the twin, which doesn't make sense for us to do.

                    As a side project, I will be converting 1 of my twins to a single drive, just to see how it handles. I'll be powering it with the Voracity motor.
                    Rafael Lopez
                    Product Developer-Pro Boat
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                    • jaike5
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 561

                      #40
                      Hi Rafael,

                      Whether you sell a twin or a single motor cat you are selling all the cats in this size seems to be a win win for you. Aq is selling zero, don't want to let them creep in. Stay ahead of the curve.
                      Just my .02 cents.
                      let me know how the conversion works out.

                      Cheers, Jay.

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                      • Rafael_Lopez
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2015
                        • 470

                        #41
                        Hey guys, here is a comparison of the twin in between the other 2 latest released from PRB. Hope this gives you all an idea for size.
                        Rafael Lopez
                        Product Developer-Pro Boat
                        My Facebook https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100010183246751

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                        • arrover
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2015
                          • 322

                          #42
                          I love the bow notch shape and the stripes on the inside of the tunnel on the twin. You did a good job on the manual too. It looks like a lot of thought went into it.
                          ProBoat Zelos 36 Twin, Voracity 36, Impulse 31, Stealthwake 23, and HobbyKing Flowmaster Videos

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                          • skeeler
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 198

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Rafael_Lopez
                            Hey guys, here is a comparison of the twin in between the other 2 latest released from PRB. Hope this gives you all an idea for size.
                            Very useful. Thanks.
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                            • pistol18
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 248

                              #44
                              Sorry your job stinks Rafael.......



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                              • Rafael_Lopez
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2015
                                • 470

                                #45
                                Originally posted by pistol18
                                Sorry your job stinks Rafael.......



                                Tell me about it! I'm running out of places to store all these darn boats.
                                Rafael Lopez
                                Product Developer-Pro Boat
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