Smoked a new SV 27 Motor!

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  • bigwaveohs
    Senior Member
    • May 2009
    • 535

    #1

    Smoked a new SV 27 Motor!

    First run on our SV 27: (2) 4500mAh 30C LiPos w/X440/3. Motor fried in 4 minutes. What did we do wrong?
    I let the dogs out...
  • egneg
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Feb 2008
    • 4670

    #2
    Sorry to hear it ... if I could answer that I would not have fried my Etti in 3 minutes!
    IMPBA 20481S D-12

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    • Diesel6401
      Memento Vivere
      • Oct 2009
      • 4204

      #3
      Originally posted by bigwaveohs
      First run on our SV 27: (2) 4500mAh 30C LiPos w/X440/3. Motor fried in 4 minutes. What did we do wrong?
      I know when I received my SV from Tower the drive shaft wasn't hardly greased at all and their was a tiny piece of the packing styrofoam that protect the rudder inside the box clogging the rudder pickup. I'm new to the hobby and don't know that much, but it could be things like that may have made the motor work that much harder or not properly cooled. Or just bad motor from stock. Sorry bout your luck, it's a super fun boat.
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      • bigwaveohs
        Senior Member
        • May 2009
        • 535

        #4
        Originally posted by Diesel6401
        I know when I received my SV from Tower the drive shaft wasn't hardly greased at all and their was a tiny piece of the packing styrofoam that protect the rudder inside the box clogging the rudder pickup. I'm new to the hobby and don't know that much, but it could be things like that may have made the motor work that much harder or not properly cooled. Or just bad motor from stock. Sorry bout your luck, it's a super fun boat.
        When we got the SV 27, the shaft was a total mess...goo instead of grease so I cleaned everything, ran in the bushing at the stinger with an electric drill and greased with GrimRacer cable grease. It was perfect before we ran it...I suspect that there was something wrong with the bearings and that they were binding. This pulled excessive current which in turn fried the windings.

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        I let the dogs out...

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        • Diesel6401
          Memento Vivere
          • Oct 2009
          • 4204

          #5
          Originally posted by bigwaveohs
          When we got the SV 27, the shaft was a total mess...goo instead of grease so I cleaned everything, ran in the bushing at the stinger with an electric drill and greased with GrimRacer cable grease. It was perfect before we ran it...I suspect that there was something wrong with the bearings and that they were binding. This pulled excessive current which in turn fried the windings.

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          Ouch, sorry bout ur luck
          - Diesel's Youtube
          - Diesel's Fleet
          "It is easier to be wise for others than for ourselves"

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          • slyman
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 126

            #6
            Was water flowing through the cooling lines?

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            • bigwaveohs
              Senior Member
              • May 2009
              • 535

              #7
              Originally posted by slyman
              Was water flowing through the cooling lines?
              Water was shooting out of the water outlet to about 12" to the side of the hull and the ESC was hot but not fried like the motor...very strange. I have a VS-1 tunnel with a UL-1 motor and the same waterjacket as the SV 27 and the UL-1 motor runs cold at 50mph!
              I let the dogs out...

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              • m4a1usr
                Fast Electric Addict
                • Nov 2009
                • 2038

                #8
                You might have had a bad connection on one of the motor leads. The wires can be hard to get to a good solder joint on. I'm assuming the end bells did not pop loose?

                John
                Change is the one Constant

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                • slyman
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 126

                  #9
                  Contact your dealer if this was a new boat for a possible warranty claim. I have found that Aquacraft stands behind their products.

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                  • bigwaveohs
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2009
                    • 535

                    #10
                    Originally posted by slyman
                    Contact your dealer if this was a new boat for a possible warranty claim. I have found that Aquacraft stands behind their products.
                    It was our LHS...wonder if I should contact Aquacraft directly? However, all I could find was Great Planes the distributor...???
                    I let the dogs out...

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                    • Diesel6401
                      Memento Vivere
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 4204

                      #11
                      Originally posted by bigwaveohs
                      It was our LHS...wonder if I should contact Aquacraft directly? However, all I could find was Great Planes the distributor...???
                      Hobbico Inc; aquacraft, great planes, duratrax and pretty much a bunch of other well known brands are all under the Hobbico Inc brand. To answer your question Great Planes is a distributor their all the same. http://www.aquacraftmodels.com/techsupport/index.html hopefully this helps
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                      "It is easier to be wise for others than for ourselves"

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                      • Brushless55
                        Creator
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 9488

                        #12
                        Originally posted by bigwaveohs
                        When we got the SV 27, the shaft was a total mess...goo instead of grease so I cleaned everything, ran in the bushing at the stinger with an electric drill and greased with GrimRacer cable grease. It was perfect before we ran it...I suspect that there was something wrong with the bearings and that they were binding. This pulled excessive current which in turn fried the windings.

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                        If your talking about the motor, they turn over very hard by hand..
                        normal for this
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                        • Brushless55
                          Creator
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 9488

                          #13
                          Originally posted by m4a1usr
                          You might have had a bad connection on one of the motor leads. The wires can be hard to get to a good solder joint on. I'm assuming the end bells did not pop loose?

                          John
                          I had this happen on one of my SVs.. I thought I burnt the motor and found a loose connector on the motor..
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                          • bigwaveohs
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2009
                            • 535

                            #14
                            The motor was so hot that white smoke was coming from under the hatch when we brought it in...you could fry eggs on it!
                            The insulation burned off the windings...the bearings are toast too!
                            I let the dogs out...

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                            • Brushless55
                              Creator
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 9488

                              #15
                              Originally posted by bigwaveohs
                              The motor was so hot that white smoke was coming from under the hatch when we brought it in...you could fry eggs on it!
                              The insulation burned off the windings...the bearings are toast too!
                              ok now I understand its not the connectors..
                              that sucks and I have no Idea why unless the stuffing tube was not installed right..
                              my budy took a SV backs because the stuffing tube was installed wrong and caused alot of drag on the shaft and poped the esc
                              .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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