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  • sunsation288
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 118

    #16
    Since i am at work right now , tomorow i will do some water test in a bucket , and let you know what i found ....many thanks again for helping
    A father who are very upset to see in son play with him with the trigger

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    • tiqueman
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Jul 2009
      • 5669

      #17
      Originally posted by sunsation288
      Ok since weather suck today ...i install the Eagle 3 ...and made some dry test ...(i think is not good ...but i made realy short full trigger ) i made 17.3 amp draw , and my son with the same batteries pack 24.28 amp ....
      Not sure why then amp draws would be that different. Im not 100%, but I think you will get different readings with your eagle tree once there is a load on the prop. And loading it in a bucket while holding it will produce more of a load than it running through the water, letting it propel itself. In order to get accurate readings, you must let it run in an open body of water.

      Have you tried yet, swapping the esc, and then swapping the motor?
      Have you had the oportunity to GPS the boats to know how far apart they are?

      I didnt catch the video the first time. Im jealous!!! How did you manage to get a ride? That had to be an amazing experience.
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      • sunsation288
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2008
        • 118

        #18
        Originally posted by tiqueman
        Not sure why then amp draws would be that different. Im not 100%, but I think you will get different readings with your eagle tree once there is a load on the prop. And loading it in a bucket while holding it will produce more of a load than it running through the water, letting it propel itself. In order to get accurate readings, you must let it run in an open body of water.
        Yes , i will try it tomorow night at the lake , if the weather let us do it as well .....


        Originally posted by tiqueman
        Have you tried yet, swapping the esc, and then swapping the motor?
        Have you had the oportunity to GPS the boats to know how far apart they are?
        No not yet , my son look me with is BIG eyes when i talk about it

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        • sunsation288
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2008
          • 118

          #19
          Originally posted by tiqueman
          I didnt catch the video the first time. Im jealous!!! How did you manage to get a ride? That had to be an amazing experience.
          It`s a good buddy of me ...i will be in Key West for the world championship in November ...i will post picture when i come back if you want

          Many thanks for helping me
          My Very Best Regards
          Christian

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          • tiqueman
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Jul 2009
            • 5669

            #20
            Originally posted by sunsation288


            It`s a good buddy of me ...i will be in Key West for the world championship in November ...i will post picture when i come back if you want

            Many thanks for helping me
            My Very Best Regards
            Christian

            Hmmm, maybe you can get me a ride in the boat and I will meet you in Key West. Im about 7 hrs car drive away. I worked in Key West for about 5 months, building 10 Town Homes behind the Home Depot. When you go there, you will see where Im taking about. Its called Key Cove.


            Anyway, back to topic, I would try swapping things as well. Let your son know its only temporary to help to try and resolve the problems with your boat. Or tell him you will just buy a bigger and much faster boat.. Just kidding. IM really curious to find the outcome on this.
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            • sunsation288
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2008
              • 118

              #21
              Originally posted by tiqueman
              Hmmm, maybe you can get me a ride in the boat and I will meet you in Key West. Im about 7 hrs car drive away. I worked in Key West for about 5 months, building 10 Town Homes behind the Home Depot. When you go there, you will see where Im taking about. Its called Key Cove.
              No problem , the first beer will be on me

              Originally posted by tiqueman
              Or tell him you will just buy a bigger and much faster boat.. Just kidding.
              Yes i think about this one ..... but tomorow i will put the GPS in if we go to the lake and let you know the result , do you know if the GPS can work well inside of the hull ?
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              Last edited by sunsation288; 09-27-2009, 10:52 PM.

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              • tiqueman
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Jul 2009
                • 5669

                #22
                Originally posted by sunsation288


                No problem , the first beer will be on me




                Yes i think about this one ..... but tomorow i will put the GPS in if we go to the lake and let you know the result , do you know if the GPS can work well inside of the hull ?


                If you can get me a ride... Christian, the whole day will be on me.... and the next day too! Ive not been to a Key West Race. Only the Sarasota and St Petersburg races. Will you watch the races from land or by water. Im thinking if I come down I will bring my boat to spectate from.

                My gps works wonderfully inside the hull, just in front of the motor. Garmin Forerunner 101 gps.

                EDIT: Is yours the red or white hull?
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                • sunsation288
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 118

                  #23
                  Originally posted by tiqueman
                  If you can get me a ride... Christian, the whole day will be on me.... and the next day too!


                  Originally posted by tiqueman
                  Ive not been to a Key West Race. Only the Sarasota and St Petersburg races. Will you watch the races from land or by water. Im thinking if I come down I will bring my boat to spectate from.
                  I will be on water ...it`s the first time for me ...i will trailer down the MTI from VT to Miami ..

                  Originally posted by tiqueman

                  EDIT: Is yours the red or white hull?
                  It`s the Red one ..and picture take before i switch to lipo
                  Sorry for my bad english Scott
                  Christian

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                  • tiqueman
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 5669

                    #24
                    Originally posted by sunsation288





                    I will be on water ...it`s the first time for me ...i will trailer down the MTI from VT to Miami ..
                    Are you spectating or racing?


                    Originally posted by sunsation288
                    It`s the Red one ..and picture take before i switch to lipo
                    Sorry for my bad english Scott
                    Christian
                    I think I see the problem Christian. Your sons boat has stickers. Thats at least a couple mph advantage

                    Your english is great. No problems at all
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                    • sunsation288
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 118

                      #25
                      Originally posted by tiqueman
                      Are you spectating or racing?
                      Spectating , the life of my friend realy suck , they have a Azimuth 46 , i will be on that boat ...drinking some real good canadian Beer
                      Originally posted by tiqueman
                      I think I see the problem Christian. Your sons boat has stickers. Thats at least a couple mph advantage

                      Your english is great. No problems at all
                      Thanks to be easy on me ...some picture when i am up side down
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                      • tiqueman
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 5669

                        #26
                        Definitely gunna be slower if your upside down.

                        Kinda hard to tell from the pics, but is your rudder kicked back? And is your strut angled down?
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                        • sunsation288
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 118

                          #27
                          Inside and outside picture ...i use my spare time right now at work to post , since they remove the websense on the internet tonight

                          p.s. the picture of my son boat , the strut look negative , but it`s not , Both boat are neutral , it`s a illusion
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                          • sunsation288
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 118

                            #28
                            Originally posted by tiqueman
                            Kinda hard to tell from the pics, but is your rudder kicked back?
                            Yes my Rudder are kicked back , what i have to do is slot the hole because i think i have a boat made a Friday morning after a big thursday night at bar

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                            • tiqueman
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 5669

                              #29
                              Originally posted by sunsation288


                              Yes my Rudder are kicked back , what i have to do is slot the hole because i think i have a boat made a Friday morning after a big thursday night at bar
                              A kicked back rudder is going to create lift while turning and the boat is going to get really loose. I had this problem on a 52" gas cat I built. Tucking it under a bit solved A LOT of problems. However, I dont think this is the cause of your speed issue.

                              Also, are your tabs angled down or are they neutral?

                              Take the front of your battery trays out or remove the entire tray and install velcro to the floor of the hull. Then you can use your batteries to find the correct center of gravity by moving them forward some.
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                              • sunsation288
                                Senior Member
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 118

                                #30
                                Originally posted by tiqueman
                                Also, are your tabs angled down or are they neutral?
                                Yes mine are neutral , and my son tilt down a little
                                Originally posted by tiqueman

                                Take the front of your battery trays out or remove the entire tray and install velcro to the floor of the hull. Then you can use your batteries to find the correct center of gravity by moving them forward some.
                                I have fix tray in the beginig after 5 or 6 day run with epoxy ...but today after what i know ...i never fix it this way ....
                                i have no idea how to remove epoxy ?

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