Rio EP brushless conversion HELP??????? plz

[aminoacid]

You will need to destroy the box,
Very carefully peace by peace and the bottom parts that are glued will stay their.
Just take your time and make flat as possible,
If you try to take the glued parts left out, You will rip the hull apart.

and what plans or ideas is there for a new radio box if i destroy this?

[lenny]

No radio box, But save the wood peaces for servo mount and etc,
Most boats and modded boats do not us them any more.
They take up to much room and you just need a glove or balloon for the rx,
Or 3M water proof spray, If you can find it.

[aminoacid]

Hey Billy, thanks for the information, i'm sure it took you a while to type all that out and i appreciate it.
I'm new to RC boating. First boat was a shockwave 55 gasoline, loved the fact i can run that bad boy for 30 minutes of full throttle and beating the hell out of it, along with letting my boys have at it, granted did flip belly up few times but nothing that can't be dried/replaced.

so i just wanted a quick little basher boat nothing spectacular. intent was only pop in a motor and maybe a prop cuz i already had the AQ esc from a UL-1. I'm starting to think that the ESC's technology isn't suitable for this little fart of a boat RIO. Anyways one thing led to another..... I seen videos of people who have done this to their RIO with great results, high 20's low 30's all out. i'm OK with mid 20's. I know the rudders were causing an issue cuz the boat would start to move in an "S" shape line, not that hard but suttle left to right, to the point the rudder went perpendicular on me. So looking at other's the put a single offset rudder to the right of the transom so i picked one up off ebay for 10 bucks shipped, havne't received or installed yet. I will try to keep the original radio box and swap places of the original servo and receiver, but i need to drill a hole for the pushrod that will be pushing the new rudder.
I know the boat isn't worth putting all that work into it and trust me i dont plan on putting much more in it if this doesn't work i'm done with it. I do have an SV 27 brand new with hardware, except motor an esc so I will spend a bit more effort with that one, but again i'm still a beginner and dont expect much out of the sv27 either, if i'm lucky 35mph which will be more than enough for me.
I do have a traxxas spartan i picked up for a good price in like new condition, box and all, kid used it couple times with the NiMh batteries and thats it. I put lipo's in it and its a quick, fun, stable for the most part boat. I'm sure others will have complaints on that one too but its fine for an RTR.

A bit off topic but I do like the PURSUIT and its RTR. i've seen it in mid 400's and mid 200's from VALUE HOBBY . Seems there are differences with this one and the mid 400's i've seen on OSE 's forums, some guy updates/builds/sells them or something of that nature. He has adjustable stinger and different motor and ESC. I will finish the SV27 and see how that goes before diving into another project.

Wanna buy a RIO EP......? grind, cut, mod, set of fire if you wish?

[aminoacid]

This is the motor that I have on 3s, gps at 32mph.
I have not tried 4s yet with it.

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...idproduct=6527

Hey lenny, which ESC do you have?

[lenny]

Hey lenny, which ESC do you have?

This one, http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...=hef-sword-120
But I do not really like it, I would buy a seaking 120a.

[aminoacid]

This one, http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...=hef-sword-120
But I do not really like it, I would buy a seaking 120a.

So this one Seaking 120a will I need a programming card? haven't the slightest idea about timings and programming. I thought they were all plug and play.

[Make-a-Wake]

So this one Seaking 120a will I need a programming card? haven't the slightest idea about timings and programming. I thought they were all plug and play.

No, a programming card is NOT needed, i can set the 5 parameters in my sleep with the transmitter based on the beep sequence, its very simple!!

[LarrysDrifter]

Damn, Billy. Chill out. Nobody is trying to get anyone to waste their money. There is a reason he suggested the esc he did. Ill let him explain it. There is no need to be harsh here. Most of us get along just fine, but sometimes people come along and act like an asshole. Dont be that guy.

[Make-a-Wake]

Lenny,
Your obviously an experienced user, that's why you can set the 5 parameters in your sleep using your transmitter based on the beep sequence. But like me, aminoacid is new to brushless. Expecting us to be able to do that is a bit off base; I have downloaded & read the manual, and I don't find it the least bit easy to program (HobbyWing) ESC's using the transmitter.

This programming module... http://www.hobbypartz.com/07e-hobbyw...ogramcard.html -- only costs $15, and the frustration it will save will be worth 5x that amount.

I have Traxxas Stampede that I plan on upgrading to BL in the near future. HobbyPartz sells complete kits with motor, esc and the above programming card. As you can see, that programming card can be used for: aircraft/heli's, cars/trucks & boats.

What if aminoacid decides to try out one of those other R/C hobbies?? Having that programming card on hand will make it a lot easier for him to program HobbyWing ESC's for those models as well as his boat.

Like aminoacid, I too have an AQ Rio EP that I have been working on upgrading to brushless. The Mickey Mouse stock motor mount was causing motors to burn up left & right. So I took it out and adapted a Cen Racing AquaJet EP aluminum mount to my boat, I'm in the process of putting the final touches on that conversion.

I plan on using a HobbyWing ESC regradless of which motor I choose. But monies tight & I'm still trying to learn about BL setups for boats, much different than cars/trucks, so going to do the Traxxas first - so I'll already have the programming card when it comes time to do the boat.

And now I have a question for you...
Why on Gods green earth are you so hung up on 120a~200a ESC's?? - Look at the pictures that aminoacid has posted of his boat. He's got a AQ 60a ESC - so why does he need "need" a 120a ESC?? To waste his money?? Or just for bragging on some forum??

First off, I'm not Lenny, and secondly since you couldnt understand that i was referring to the fact that it is simple to use.........I'm sure everyone else could understand that and i dont see the need for someone to spend money when he is smart enough to read and follow the instructions. Do you even own a T120................or a boat?

Your big long "copy and paste" posts are not very helpful as people cant ingest all that stuff and wont on this forum...............

[Make-a-Wake]

Quote Mr. Barnacle

"And now I have a question for you...
Why on Gods green earth are you so hung up on 120a~200a ESC's?? - Look at the pictures that aminoacid has posted of his boat. He's got a AQ 60a ESC - so why does he need "need" a 120a ESC?? To waste his money?? Or just for bragging on some forum??"

You obviously dont read cuz you are too busy trying to give everyone advice when you dont have a clue about FE boating
He has a 4s only ESC dude!!! He cannot run 3s on it which he said he wanted to try and the 120a can run any voltage up to 6s AND its only 49 bucks and he can use it if he upgrades.......................you need to keep it shut with all your bogus advice!!!!!!!!!!

Smoke on that Barnacle

[aminoacid]

yea currently i only have the 60amp UL1 ESC that only runs on 4s, nothing more, nothing less which sucks for this rio ep.
I picked up a 3650 1500kv and will try that on my current setup after the turn fins, trim tabs, and single rudder 75mm. If that doesn't work then, my next attempt will be
this linkified ------> MOTOR and ESC with 3S batteries. Motor is a 36mm because of the fins can but 2848 power.
I also have a x437 prop on the way from Steve here on OSE.
Somebody here has the 3656 at 2600kv on 3s with 120esc hitting 30mph, aftermarket rudder and trim tabs, turn fins. Original stuffing tube.
Point being this is VERY possible.
No need for hostility guys, its a hobby and we're all sharing experiences and knowledge, no other more fun way to do this hobby.
The only acceptable fights and bickering is from a few hot NFL cheerleaders or maybe college.

Thoughts???????

[LarrysDrifter]

My thought is to see the hot cheerleaders.

[LarrysDrifter]

Thanks.

[silvermansteve]

barnacle, keep up the good work: telling these guys who have, in many cases, spent years doing this stuff! i say, go get 'em, because i sense a conspiracy against you involving some of these experienced hobbyists.