oh...oh...got a more serious problem

[JimClark]

Is it possible that there isn't cloth (or very little) in the air dam protrusion? it must be extremely hard to get cloth into the molds even in vacuum bagging it.

Jim

[AndyKunz]

Will 30 min epoxy work as well as I haven't found 2 hour epoxy.

I like to use 2 hour because it gives lots of working time and you want it to flow freely down into the gap and seal things up well.

You could try 30 minute and let us know.

Andy

[Capt. Crash]

Is it possible that there isn't cloth (or very little) in the air dam protrusion? it must be extremely hard to get cloth into the molds even in vacuum bagging it.

Jim

That is what I suggested on this post after the sponson sagged when I touched it and it was not that hot.

http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...ead.php?t=6221

Now with this crack too it makes me start questioning this whole adventure. It's starting to look like my whole boat needs strengthening. How much bulkhead adding/upgrading and glue do I need to pour into this to keep it together?

How much can I do to it before my warranty becomes void? How many holes can I put into it before it is unreturnable?

A replacement hull with the stuffing tube already installed is starting to look better. and better...but it needs to be completely upgraded and be a lot better than this one or it's a waste of my time and patience.


At this point I'm also considering the Proboat offering again...using the Miss Elam hull and everything else from this thing as a last resort. I really like this boat but I'm starting to lose my patience with it.

[SweetZ28]

You know what.. it looks like (depending on your batteries) that is close to the CG..

Here is what i suspect..

The boat lands in the water hundreds of time each run. it must be flexing from the weight + impact force at the CG.

Im going to see what can be done about adding extra cloth in that area.

WILD.. after 100s of runs on the development boats we never saw this... like taking a brick to the side of the head.. that one left a mark!

Are we OK with this suspicion and suggestion guys?

Grim

Also Grim keep in mind it's cold out and the water is much colder than in the summer time ...so you guy's may have been testing in warm waters and cold makes stuff tend to crack much more easy and you guy's had no way of knowing this because i bet it wont happen in summer time when water temps are much warmer?... this is what i am thinking

[JimClark]

I am not talking about the bottom only the small air trap just behind the sponson it would be next to impossible to get cloth down in the area where the crack has develpoed at the beginning of the thread

That is what I suggested on this post after the sponson sagged when I touched it and it was not that hot.

http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...ead.php?t=6221

Now with this crack too it makes me start questioning this whole adventure. It's starting to look like my whole boat needs strengthening. How much bulkhead adding/upgrading and glue do I need to pour into this to keep it together?

How much can I do to it before my warranty becomes void? How many holes can I put into it before it is unreturnable?

A replacement hull with the stuffing tube already installed is starting to look better. and better...but it needs to be completely upgraded and be a lot better than this one or it's a waste of my time and patience.


At this point I'm also considering the Proboat offering again...using the Miss Elam hull and everything else from this thing as a last resort. I really like this boat but I'm starting to lose my patience with it.

[Capt. Crash]

My sponson bottom sagged...and the topside hull area just forward of the vertical fins seems very flexible too. I can press on it and it flexes...more so on the starboard side. It seems very thin there. Add to that Grims question about the possible need for more glass in the tub under the batteries....where does it end? I measured the surface temps @ 51 degrees. Air temp 40-50.

[JimClark]

Dudes it is a race boat there are going to be areas that flex. If you made it rock solid with glass it would sink or at least not get up on a plane because of the weight

[Capt. Crash]

Dudes it is a race boat there are going to be areas that flex. If you made it rock solid with glass it would sink or at least not get up on a plane because of the weight

So you think a little epoxy down in that spot will fix it?

[JimClark]

flexing on the deck and some other areas is normal for a race boat. Now I don't have a UL-1 so maybe it is more flexing than I think but. The cracks are another issue.
Jim

[JimClark]

Where is the motor mount in relation to the cracks that are developing?
Just a thought it might not be a bad idea to stiffen that area in the tub some but I would wait until I hear from Mike Z on this as I am sure he is right on top of this issue.

Jim

So you think a little epoxy down in that spot will fix it?

[Steven Vaccaro]

Anyone see this. http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...ead.php?t=6308

[planezero]

It is only on the starboard side...so far. Let me know if i can be of further assistance.

Crash

Just checked my hull it has two cracks on the other side (where the fin is ) 5,5 and 6,5 cm from the point where you are measuring.
In my case its just the gel coating that has cracked. Not serious at all (yet ?).

For reference, I've only had about 8 runs on my boat, but the last one was a major crash at top speed with a fountain installation.

[Capt. Crash]

Anyone see this. http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...ead.php?t=6308

That may be the ticket...I don't want to keep adding weight to this thing try to fix the weak points.

I would like to ask some questions over there and registered last week but still have no posting rights. I can't figure out how to contact the admin. to see why I can't post. Would someone here send a heads up to him for me? I registered as Capt. Crash over there.

Thanks

[Grimracer]

under the batterys? What?

The batterys are in front of the CG...

O man...



Grim

[egneg]

under the batterys? What?

The batterys are in front of the CG...

O man...



Grim

No behind the sponson on the rail leading towards the back just like in the captains picture. It very well could be at the center of balance but I have taken everything out to make repairs so I can't check it.