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  • RandyatBBY
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Sep 2007
    • 3915

    #1

    UL-1 Connectors and solder problems

    Reciently I have had a customer that has been having UL-1 Connectors and solder problems. They are melting the solder in a one mile race oval on the 1/6th mile course during the fifth lap. Any one else having this problem?
    Randy
    For ABS, Fiberglass, Carbon hulls and Stainless hardware
    BBY Racing
  • detox
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Jun 2008
    • 2318

    #2
    This is a common problem. Replace the thin factory connectors for beafier 5mm bullets.

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    • JimClark
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Apr 2007
      • 5907

      #3
      are the ul motors the ones that have coatings on the wires and are a bear to get connectors soldered to them?
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      • RandyatBBY
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Sep 2007
        • 3915

        #4
        Interesting
        Randy
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        • twofford71
          Member
          • Jun 2009
          • 95

          #5
          Dont cut the deans off. You have to desolder then resolder 5.5 bullets on

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          • RandyatBBY
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Sep 2007
            • 3915

            #6
            Originally posted by twofford71
            Dont cut the deans off. You have to desolder then resolder 5.5 bullets on

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            I had all ready done that. it is the motor couplers solder on the wires that are melting.
            Randy
            For ABS, Fiberglass, Carbon hulls and Stainless hardware
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            • detox
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Jun 2008
              • 2318

              #7
              DO NOT CUT THE MOTOR WIRES! The coating on the motor wires will make it very difficult to resolder. Simply desolder old connectors then resolder on new beafier ones. The thin factory 4mm motor connectors heat up too easily causing them to unsolder themselves from motor leads.
              Last edited by detox; 02-14-2012, 07:13 AM.

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              • wayne middlemiss
                Member
                • Feb 2012
                • 47

                #8
                Originally posted by detox
                This is a common problem. Replace the thin factory connectors for beafier 5mm bullets.
                bullet connectors are the go, those deans ones look better in the trash can

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                • RandyatBBY
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 3915

                  #9
                  Ya know the old connectors and solder on the early (first) UL-1 motors were fine never any problem (on the smaller boat). The SV27 solder and connectors always had to go and I would just hard solder and prewire wrap the connection. I guess the bean counters thined it down on both in the end.
                  Last edited by RandyatBBY; 02-27-2012, 12:22 PM.
                  Randy
                  For ABS, Fiberglass, Carbon hulls and Stainless hardware
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                  • pescador
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2009
                    • 499

                    #10
                    I had cold solder joints on the motor connections on my first gen UL-1.
                    Basically just the heat shrink holding them together but I swapped them out and it's still going strong.
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                    • m4a1usr
                      Fast Electric Addict
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 2038

                      #11
                      Originally posted by RandyatBBY
                      Reciently I have had a customer that has been having UL-1 Connectors and solder problems. They are melting the solder in a one mile race oval on the 1/6th mile course during the fifth lap. Any one else having this problem?
                      I think the problem, along with the cold solder joints, is that Chinese/ Overseas factories have standardized on RoHS materials and are not either using skilled labor to complete the soldering task or the workers are in a hurry and not inspecting their solder joints. Cold solder joints using lead free solders look much different then soldered joints using lead solder. Make sure you "wet" the wires with 60/40 lead solder and with some flux before you insert them in to the new bullets. Or if your just going to reuse the old connectors, just melt and dump out the RoHS solder the factory is using. I really hate that carp. Good ole 60/40 will do the job even with the smaller bulets.

                      John
                      Change is the one Constant

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                      • RandyatBBY
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 3915

                        #12
                        I put in the old UL-1 motor in my SMJ 30 (Short for Smoken Joes 30 inch) and on the fifth lap they melted the solder. I hard wired and wrapped with several strands of lead wire. In all test the 5 year old ESC and motor are just fine. I sorta inner weave all the strands from the motor to the ESC then wire wrapped it and shrink wrapped the connection.
                        Randy
                        For ABS, Fiberglass, Carbon hulls and Stainless hardware
                        BBY Racing

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                        • ray schrauwen
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                          • Apr 2007
                          • 9475

                          #13
                          Originally posted by RandyatBBY
                          I put in the old UL-1 motor in my SMJ 30 (Short for Smoken Joes 30 inch) and on the fifth lap they melted the solder. I hard wired and wrapped with several strands of lead wire. In all test the 5 year old ESC and motor are just fine. I sorta inner weave all the strands from the motor to the ESC then wire wrapped it and shrink wrapped the connection.
                          Smart, less resistance too. I'm doing this more on my boats. P-mono, Q-mono 4-sure.
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