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  • Brushless55
    Creator
    • Oct 2008
    • 9488

    #61
    I think this thing looks cool!
    my guess it's going to kick on the MG
    .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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    • Darin Jordan
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Apr 2007
      • 8335

      #62
      Originally posted by Brushless55
      I think this thing looks cool!
      my guess it's going to kick on the MG
      I'll take that bet!! "Upper 40's"?? Been there, done that... Bring it on! Let's get to racing... Has the water thawed yet??

      Spring can't get here soon enough for me!!

      By the way... those of you thinking you'll make this new boat faster by replacing the 1800KV motor with the 2030KV motor aren't paying attention to what we've been trying to tell you. Motors are identical, except for KV, which means you gain RPM, but lose torque... Guess which one motivates the boat??

      That AQ 1800KV motor is a BEAST, and is a perfect fit for this type of boat. You simply HAVE to use the right props... If you'd focus your efforts there, You would save yourself a lot of burned up parts and might even save a few $$$ on replacing motors/ESCs...

      Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
      "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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      • Brushless55
        Creator
        • Oct 2008
        • 9488

        #63
        Originally posted by Darin Jordan
        I'll take that bet!! "Upper 40's"?? Been there, done that... Bring it on! Let's get to racing... Has the water thawed yet??

        Spring can't get here soon enough for me!!

        By the way... those of you thinking you'll make this new boat faster by replacing the 1800KV motor with the 2030KV motor aren't paying attention to what we've been trying to tell you. Motors are identical, except for KV, which means you gain RPM, but lose torque... Guess which one motivates the boat??

        That AQ 1800KV motor is a BEAST, and is a perfect fit for this type of boat. You simply HAVE to use the right props... If you'd focus your efforts there, You would save yourself a lot of burned up parts and might even save a few $$$ on replacing motors/ESCs...

        Uhhhm
        didn't you sell your Stiletto that look slower than a VS-1 with UL-1 power
        yeah ok, chill dude
        i've seen a MG on UL-1 power running 4s that was faster than with the stock lower kv motor
        .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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        • nate
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Mar 2009
          • 1652

          #64
          Hey to hell with both of those motor's, slap in a Neu on 5-6s...
          LMT
          LehnerMotorenTechnik.com

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          • Brushless55
            Creator
            • Oct 2008
            • 9488

            #65
            Originally posted by nate
            Hey to hell with both of those motor's, slap in a Neu on 5-6s...
            hell yeah!
            .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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            • Darin Jordan
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Apr 2007
              • 8335

              #66
              Originally posted by Brushless55
              Uhhhm
              didn't you sell your Stiletto that look slower than a VS-1 with UL-1 power
              yeah ok, chill dude
              i've seen a MG on UL-1 power running 4s that was faster than with the stock lower kv motor
              Hahaha... I'm totally chilled... you read it wrong. I'm stoked that Offshore is going to be EXPLODING this year!

              The Stiletto is a 30" production glass boat that is targeted to the Sport market (i.e.: people who will run them for 10 minutes at a time, etc....)... It does about 35mph out of the box, which is exactly what it was designed to do. I'm not sure why you even bring this up. A better comparison might have been my former 28" WoodStuff with the 1500KV ProBoat motor, which registered 50mph on a regular basis (have posted the EagleTree charts previously, if you need proof) It's all in the prop/hull combo.

              Have you seen an MG go 47mph with the stock motor and ESC? If not, then people need to do some more prop work. (I actually have readings of 49mph, but I'm trying to stay a little conservative. )

              The 1800KV AQ motor is a beast, and is perfect for this package. A quick prop change should put this boat up near 50. That's not based on speculation.... it's based on EagleTree data that I've been gathering over the past two years with these systems. We've tested Raptor Hydros with the UL1 and the SV27R motors, and, while the UL1 has a SLIGHT straightaway speed advantage, the SV27R motor blows it away through the turns. Simply has more torque to keep the prop turning under load, and gets off the corners MUCH harder.

              I'm not saying any of this to try to bash or get into a pissing match. I'm trying to get guys to realize that two 36-56-XXXX motors, of the same manufacture, weight, etc., are putting out generally the same amount of overall power, they just get it there a little differently. With the right prop, either can be "the fastest".

              Now... let's get some REAL pictures of this new boat! I wanna see!! :D
              Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
              "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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              • Brushless55
                Creator
                • Oct 2008
                • 9488

                #67
                Originally posted by Grimracer
                Mikes right.. just a few more tweaks and details and we are going to be home free.. and.. there just might be a surprise for a few of you "Boat Nuts" when the boat finally does hit the market.

                This boat has been allot of fun to design. Its a very solid performer and by far one of the best handling cat I have ever drove.

                But.. its really not important what I think or feel.. Best we can here at AquaCraft can do is make the boat FIT YOU!.. And what we have learned in the last few years “IS” designed in this boat..

                NO DELIVERY DATE IS SET AT THIS TIME!

                BTY.. Im going to be racing one at the NAMBA nats in the LSO class. Truth is I really don’t care all that much how well the boat does in the class and if it does well I will chalk it up to luck and fun.. But if drive well and make some new buds.. BONUS!.. that’s the true sprit of toy boat racing to me.. just driving well and making new buds is about all I can ask for anymore. Grimracer says! Two boats are twice as fun (sorry, inside joke )

                ROCKET AND ROLL.. aha.. cat with no name.. or does it

                Grim
                his attitude is the reason why I will keep buying Aquacraft products
                I don't see a know it all in this posting
                Aquacraft has me for life
                .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                • Darin Jordan
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 8335

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Brushless55
                  his attitude is the reason why I will keep buying Aquacraft products
                  I don't see a know it all in this posting
                  Aquacraft has me for life
                  Dude? Wow... Why the hostility? I have no problem with you supporting AQ at all, but if you have read "know it all" in any of my threads, then we need to meet in person. Not even close. I'm simply telling you what I've found out, passing on info, and trying to help.

                  Mike Rocks... no secret there, and his boats rock too, and I couldn't even come close to driving as well as he does. This conversation had nothing to do with AQ vs. PB or anything else along those lines. All I was trying to do was give people some additional information on the MOTORS so they might understand what it takes to make something go 40 or 45 or 50, and more specifically, with THESE motors. And, perhaps, do it without burning things up. Maybe I DO know a few things, simply through experience and testing?? Perhaps?? There must be a reason why I have an Elam, Stiletto, and MG, all which will run in the high 40's for a 1-mile heat with the stock 1500 motors... It's not an accident.

                  I'll bow out and just go back to silently watching what's going. This seems to be a theme, and I want no part of it, especially when something as exciting as another new RTR coming to market is suppose to be the topic of conversation.

                  I have not doubt that this boat is going to ROCK (with a name like that, why wouldn't it!)... and I am SOOO excited to hopefully be getting more people involved in racing Offshore classes because of the options now for that class.

                  NOW, if NAMBA would just hurry up and get the P-Spec power specification as an OFFICIAL CLASS (DAAAVVVIIIIDDD... where ARE YOU??? ), we'd be golden!
                  Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                  "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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                  • Brushless55
                    Creator
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 9488

                    #69
                    Hostility, not sure what your reading Darin, but I see only praise to Grim for his attitude towards racers and sport users

                    The fact is Darin, some love the sound of higher kv motors
                    fact is some can tune their boat to run better with those motors (however they do it) with great runtimes and speeds

                    If some wants to change to a different motor that has the kv they want, let them have fun doing so

                    we all love this sport/hobby and have different imput to get similar results, and some even better

                    AQ has me for life, because of there service and attitude
                    .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                    • Hydromaniac
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 816

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Brushless55
                      Hostility, not sure what your reading Darin, but I see only praise to Grim for his attitude towards racers and sport users

                      The fact is Darin, some love the sound of higher kv motors
                      fact is some can tune their boat to run better with those motors (however they do it) with great runtimes and speeds

                      If some wants to change to a different motor that has the kv they want, let them have fun doing so

                      we all love this sport/hobby and have different imput to get similar results, and some even better

                      AQ has me for life, because of there service and attitude
                      I have an idea of how we can see them in action, Brushless we are planning the 2011 race season now, and again we will be having some offshore racing as well as other classes in your back yard, get one and maybe you can race it with us then you can post how well it does. The electric ranks are growing in northern Colorado so that would give you some real racing opportunities.
                      www.rockymountainthunderboats.org

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                      • Brushless55
                        Creator
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 9488

                        #71
                        Originally posted by Hydromaniac
                        I have an idea of how we can see them in action, Brushless we are planning the 2011 race season now, and again we will be having some offshore racing as well as other classes in your back yard, get one and maybe you can race it with us then you can post how well it does. The electric ranks are growing in northern Colorado so that would give you some real racing opportunities.
                        Sounds great Rod
                        keep us Colorado guys posted on the 2011 race season, when and where..
                        .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                        • Hydromaniac
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 816

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Brushless55
                          Sounds great Rod
                          keep us Colorado guys posted on the 2011 race season, when and where..
                          Should have the shedule up soon, maybe then you can finally come out and play.
                          There should be a lot of racing in Colorado this season. Would like to see you Race at some of them as you have been unable to in the past. I thought you would have raced at the Nats or one of the NCNB races seeing that they were so close to you. Well perhaps this year.
                          www.rockymountainthunderboats.org

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                          • Brushless55
                            Creator
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 9488

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Hydromaniac
                            Should have the shedule up soon, maybe then you can finally come out and play.
                            There should be a lot of racing in Colorado this season. Would like to see you Race at some of them as you have been unable to in the past. I thought you would have raced at the Nats or one of the NCNB races seeing that they were so close to you. Well perhaps this year.
                            The Nats were cool!
                            .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                            • Doby
                              KANADA RULES!
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 7280

                              #74
                              Did you race...or were you just a wallflower.....these boats are designed for spec racing.......not playing with yourself to see how fast you can go in a straight line....listen to Darin and Grim and learn.

                              Any idiot can put in a larger motor and go fast (I'm proof of that).....Join a race event sometime and see were the fun really is...anyway....back to the beach....for a few more days.
                              Grand River Marine Modellers
                              https://www.facebook.com/search/top/...ne%20modellers

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                              • Brushless55
                                Creator
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 9488

                                #75
                                Originally posted by Doby
                                .....these boats are designed for spec racing.......not playing with yourself to see how fast you can go in a straight line....listen to Darin and Grim and learn.
                                Who the hell says someone cannot do what they want to with a boat from AQ or PB?
                                if they want to stuff a big ass motor in a Stiletto like Darin did to boil the water, why not let them!!!!
                                http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...&postcount=196 BAD ASS!
                                Last edited by Brushless55; 01-15-2011, 06:49 PM.
                                .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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