Help me pick out a mini wave jumper with self righting features

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  • tlandauer
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Apr 2011
    • 5666

    #16
    I shot a clip of my Mini ECO jumping at Jackson Lake, I am aware the OP is not interested in this boat, however, since I bought the subject up, thought I will follow thru .
    Too many boats, not enough time...

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    • lenny
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Sep 2010
      • 4293

      #17
      I love how this cheap boat has a water tight seal,
      And looks to be made pretty will and setup well for what it is.
      I mean what would take to have that on all rtr.


      How narrow is that hull ?
      I use a x440/3 on my Rio ep and it works pretty good,
      And I just picked up a x437/3 to try on it to.
      Last edited by lenny; 07-28-2013, 02:28 PM.
      ? ONLY IF THEY WORK

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      • lenny
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Sep 2010
        • 4293

        #18
        Just a little bit to choppy for that size hull.

        Originally posted by tlandauer
        I shot a clip of my Mini ECO jumping at Jackson Lake, I am aware the OP is not interested in this boat, however, since I bought the subject up, thought I will follow thru .
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYKBLODGm60
        ? ONLY IF THEY WORK

        My youtube videos.http://www.youtube.com/user/61manx?feature=mhee

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        • hyrulejedi86
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 494

          #19
          Thanks for that video, landauer. That's what I want to be able to do on Lake Erie if I'm up there or just on any smaller pond. I decided that the Barbwire meets almost everything I'm after so I've ordered one. Can't wait for it to get here. I'm going to replace the ESC with a 35 amp seaking and a metal prop of the same size plus 1mm as its as close as I can find.

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          • martin
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Aug 2010
            • 2887

            #20
            The Barbwire is 4.3" wide.

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            • J.W. Pepper

              #21
              Did you use a "X" style prop or "M"??

              Lenny has told me a couple times to use 3-blade props with my AQ Rio EP brushless to help with torque roll. He's having great luck with them with his BL AQ Rio EP, but unfortunately I can't say that; they do control torque roll but they also kill top end speed by a very noticable amount.

              I started with x440/3, motor ran real hot & top speed was non-existant. Stepped down to a x436/3 (PB 1800Kv on 3S), no more motor heating issues but top end speed still suffered - not as bad as x440, but still...

              In this thread... http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...=speed+control - the OP said he got great results from a m435/3. I've read similar results in other threads as well for boats like / similar to the AQ Rio, PB IM26 & PB SW26v3 (brushed).

              Any help / suggestions would be really appreciated.


              Originally posted by hyrulejedi86
              I put a 3 blade prop on my MiniRio brushless conversion and it made ALL the difference in the handling. What size do you think would be best to buy from OSE for this purpose? I was hoping to find a metal one so it lasts but I'll settle with plastic if that's all there is.

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              • hyrulejedi86
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 494

                #22
                I also have noticed that the three blade prop does help with instability in the hull, I have one on my MiniRio and it made all the difference. It's easily going at it's max speed for the hull too, I don't have any numbers but it works well. I'm going to try a three prop on my Pursuit soon but most likely will end up with a 2 blade as that's what's on there now and it works very well.

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                • hyrulejedi86
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 494

                  #23
                  I received my Atomik Barbwire just last weekend and was finally able to run it in a small pond tonight and I'll tell you what, it is AWESOME! I went ahead and changed the ESC for a Seaking 35A and put a standard water outlet on the side of the hull because it looked better. It turns on a dime when going left and still pretty sharp on the right turns but has a tendecncy to flip if you turn too hard left. Which is OK, it just takes a little getting used to. The thing flipped back upright on it's own all but one time. It even dove once far enough I couldn't see it anymore but popped right back up. Too much fun! I'm working on a better waterproofing measure as it leaks too much for my liking. Love it so far! Great Recommendation.

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                  • hyrulejedi86
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 494

                    #24
                    Ok, so had a little mishap today. Was running the barbwire and the seaking capacitor hit the motor destroying it. I want to get a new one and solder it in place but I was wondering if I need the same voltage/uF as what was on or if a bigger voltage/uF would hurt anything. It cane with one 16V 470 uF capacitor.

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                    • ray schrauwen
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 9471

                      #25
                      Right here: OSE CAPS

                      Make sure the old one(s) are removed completely.
                      Nortavlag Bulc

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                      • hyrulejedi86
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 494

                        #26
                        So, it won't hurt anything that it is a higher Voltage and uF rating? What is the advantage if it won't hurt to having a higher voltage/uF capacitor? I have had some problems with the LVC cutting in too soon, any chance that will be helped by it?

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                        • lenny
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 4293

                          #27
                          It will help supply more volts to the motor faster when it is needed,
                          And also help not stress your cells so much to.
                          Added higher uF caps is a good thing to do on most setups.
                          It may help with the LVC cutting in to,
                          What C rate are the cells that you are using in that boat ?
                          I just time my run some times if that happen with some old packs I am using,
                          And I turn off the LVC when timing the runs.
                          ? ONLY IF THEY WORK

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                          • hyrulejedi86
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 494

                            #28
                            I can run the Venom 1300mAh 3s 25c stock battery and it runs till it hits about 10.2V but my Turnigy Nano-tech 2.2mAh 25C/50C always seems to have the LVC cut in far sooner than the lower capacity battery. I pull it and it shows around 12V most times when the LVC hit. It's wierd but it's probably the dang nano-techs. I have some flightmax batteries and they are solid. Just can't find any in stock in the US warehouse for my pursuit and the barbwire.

                            I might drop the LVC to 3.0V/cell instead of 3.4 and see if that helps.

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                            • hyrulejedi86
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 494

                              #29
                              Ok, so I made a quick stop by radioshack to see what they had and they had a 37V 470uF capacitor with the leads on each end instead of both out the bottom. Will this work do you guys think? If so how do I know which lead to put in which hole in the circuit board?

                              Thanks!
                              Last edited by hyrulejedi86; 08-21-2013, 11:13 AM.

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                              • tlandauer
                                Fast Electric Addict!
                                • Apr 2011
                                • 5666

                                #30
                                My recollection is that there is a reason why ESCs use Rubicon CAPS, they are the so called film/fluid cap as compared to the Radio Shack's "solid" ceramic type. The Rubicon type is suited for high voltage/fast discharge application. When going bad, the so-called ''solid" ceramic type turn to powder inside or just go dead, they don't bulge or "explode" as the ones on ESCs do. I would find one that is compatible like the original one on your 35amp Seaking ESC. Higher capacitance is OK, just not a different type of capacitor.
                                I would use the ones suggested by Ray.
                                Too many boats, not enough time...

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