New Zonda full CF 980mm

[Maximus]

Yes I also have a TFL Genesis that has taken much abuse and has no reinforcement and is still holding together with no hull repairs. Not all of us want to spend huge an a hull these are still toy boats after all.

[Flying Scotsman]

I love your responses to some of these posters. Your saying what I'm thinking only much more politely.

Ah Canucks, are very polite . We tend to be a wee bit more subtle with our rebukes than "Trumpites"

Douggie

[keithbradley]

Where do they make the MHZ hulls? I believe the HPR works on some of them as well... at least thats what I think as he posted a picture of like 10 mhz hulls in his shop...

Nope. If he posted a pic of 10 hulls, I'm sure they are all his.

[keithbradley]

Well, I'm not going to take any chances because I don't have that kind of money to waste, so I'm just gonna get the 45" mystic hull from KBB.

It really depends on what you want.

Too many people become instant experts these days...it's tough to know where to take your advice. A guy uses a prop that runs well on his boat and suddenly he's telling everyone with any hull that they need to run that prop...or conversely someone crashes and breaks a hull and then they tell everyone it's junk. ...Or someone runs 90mph for a pass and a half and then tells everyone that their setup runs 90mph "all day long" (I still laugh any time I read those words posted in regard to an RC boat...it's in instant tell that the poster is full of sh**).

The reality is that everything has it's place in this hobby. There are a lot of hulls out there, and they all have their advantages and disadvantages. I don't know of anyone who has built more Zonda hulls than I have. I bet I've built 15. They're a good mix of straightline capability and "drift" style turning. Overall, a VERY easy and forgiving boat to setup, drive, and tune.
The mystic is better at going fast in rough water, and can offer a bit more stability in a straight line. It's a much more "scale" boat, so it looks better to most, and it's a stronger hull. It's NOT, however, a good choice for a single motor/drive setup, and it is more sensitive to drive adjustments and for sure takes more experience to drive. If you want to build the mystic, build it with the drives and rudder that are intended for it. If you would rather opt for hardware that's "close" for a few bucks less, your better off sticking with the Zonda.

[dmitry100]

Doby: No reinforcement whatsoever huh? Perhaps you shouldn't so blindly assume that this so called "New Zonda" that the poster posted a link to is even made by the TFL factory, with oversight from the TFL CEO, or any other known China brand that you know of, or buy from... Looks more like a TFL Zonda clone than anything. Could be Joe Shmo Lee stamping out these things in his basement for all you know and you're here calling people ignorant and defending this hull like you actually have this EXACT same one from this very same seller.

Flying Scotsman: So, I take it you don't like The Donald?

[kfxguy]

I know a guy who has this exact knockoff boat and he likes his. It's all in what you want. Iirc he's gone Close to 80 with a set of props I sent him with no other changes. He's sent me pics of it and it's not that bad at all.

[Doby]

Doby: No reinforcement whatsoever huh? Perhaps you shouldn't so blindly assume that this so called "New Zonda" that the poster posted a link to is even made by the TFL factory, with oversight from the TFL CEO, or any other known China brand that you know of, or buy from... Looks more like a TFL Zonda clone than anything. Could be Joe Shmo Lee stamping out these things in his basement for all you know and you're here calling people ignorant and defending this hull like you actually have this EXACT same one from this very same seller.

Flying Scotsman: So, I take it you don't like The Donald?

Could be a clone, but taking the Zonda name on faith...Could be someone reselling a Zonda hull..

I'm confused about your "no reinforcement whatsoever" comment...where did I say that? You seem to be insinuating that was my comment?? Please correct yourself if thats the case.

[Doby]

It's Cheap china crap/junk/garbage "AS IS".

And by the looks of it-- it's not even made by TFL. Could be some other dodgy manufacturer with bad quality control.

Look for something out of Switzerland or Germany. Like HPR or MHZ.

I see you edited your original posting for clarification as to what was actually on your mind (hopefully)

[Brushless55]

I love your responses to some of these posters. Your saying what I'm thinking only much more politely.

I'm learning to not type what I'm thinking at times...

[785boats]

A wise Philosophy buddy.

Dimitry
As the DYmotorshop is a TFL distributor there is a good chance that the hulls they sell are from the TFL factory. Although it's not guaranteed.
I buy a lot of gear from that site because I, like a lot of people, are a bit of a fan of the TFL gear. Their hulls & gear & SSS motors have won me a few trophies over the years.
Have a scroll through the site. Especially if you are into scale Off Road R/C trucks & buggies etc too.
I have this hull on the bench being fitted out at the moment.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/850mm-33-5-Carbon-Fiber-Mono-Deep-V-Hull-for-Electric-Nitro-/271868810227?hash=item3f4ca4d3f3:g:p0MAAOSwrklU1sI3

It's the first carbon hull that I've built up so I've nothing to compare it with. But it seems to be light, strong & sharp on all the right edges. No hooks or rockers either.
We'll see how the build progresses & how the initial test runs are.
Cheers.
Paul.

[properchopper]

"Too many people become instant experts these days...it's tough to know where to take your advice. A guy uses a prop that runs well on his boat and suddenly he's telling everyone with any hull that they need to run that prop...or conversely someone crashes and breaks a hull and then they tell everyone it's junk. ...Or someone runs 90mph for a pass and a half and then tells everyone that their setup runs 90mph "all day long" (I still laugh any time I read those words posted in regard to an RC boat...it's in instant tell that the poster is full of sh**)."


Well said Keith. It does however make it simple to identify the obvious first and second place winners in the OSE Dunning-Kruger Effect competition....

[properchopper]

I'm learning to not type what I'm thinking at times...

I'm with you ........

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[dmitry100]

Doby, I must of mistakenly assumed that you're running your 6 hulls without extra reinforcement since you didn't mention it. But either way, wouldn't you agree that at this point that these hulls DO require reinforcement and that goes towards a higher price point for the hulls overall?
Plenty of guys out here running these types of hulls with tons of reinforcement and they hold up great when done right-- I'm not debating that. But most of guys like Prodrvr who want to buy these hulls don't know the extra cost involved (or would want the extra work if they knew). There's hulls that come stronger out of the box for not much more $$ like the ones I listed. That's my whole point.

And then there's all the people who didn't read a single thing I posted trying to point out that I'm full of sh*t. Well, perhaps they should get off their "elite rc boater" high horses and kiss my a$$.

Prodrvr made the right choice going with a Radtek hull instead... given that it'll be Made in the USA and super strong too.

[Doby]

All my current fleet of 15 FEs, AQ, Pro Boat, TFL, Delta Force, MHZ and the odd no-name Asian imports do have "reinforcement" in them in the form of expandable foam, long stringers installed to spread loads...etc....that's just the way I like things.

I've never met a hull that couldn't benefit from a bit of extra strength.

[Prodrvr]

Gonna start a GoFundMe account now lol