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  • kfxguy
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Oct 2013
    • 8746

    #1

    Kbb34 repower, unbelievable!

    Most of you guys know that I had a mgm Esc I exploded. Well something happened with the lehner at the same time that caused the kv to change to like 4400kv according to my tester. I already had a sf300 lite to go in it. Then I had a 1527 1500kv as a spare. Last time I ran that 1527 on 6s with an m447 it went 51. Then I did up an abc prop to try out and I was thinking maybe 58-60 mph. When I brought the boat in I was amazed. This is what she looks like with the neu and sf Esc.





    6s 1500kv 48mm 1.5 pitch prop.



    7s



    8s

    32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was
  • kfxguy
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Oct 2013
    • 8746

    #2
    Here's the video. I didn't get the 84.7 on on video. I made so many tuning passes my son got tired of videoing.


    32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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    • kfxguy
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Oct 2013
      • 8746

      #3
      Ps... I put unbelievable because the first time I ran this motor it only went 51mph with the same prop that the lehner went 69mph on the same amount of cells.
      32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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      • srislash
        Not there yet
        • Mar 2011
        • 7673

        #4
        Nice, and no BOOM...

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        • Brushless55
          Creator
          • Oct 2008
          • 9488

          #5
          8S

          Dude, you are a mad man !
          .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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          • kfxguy
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Oct 2013
            • 8746

            #6
            Originally posted by srislash
            Nice, and no BOOM...
            I know! I made I think 3 or 4 8s passes. No flipping. No boom. Motor was a little warm. Maybe 115 degrees. Here's the log. There was some sort of spike when I let off the throttle. Only saw that once. Probably a fluke or something.

            32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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            • kfxguy
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Oct 2013
              • 8746

              #7
              Originally posted by Brushless55
              8S

              Dude, you are a mad man !

              It's only 1500kv. It was turning 37k rpm. Isn't "saw" rpm over 40k? So technically this is my "sport" setup. The amps weren't over 170 at full throttle. I should have more room to play. Hint....9s will fit in the boat. Lol.
              32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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              • Brushless55
                Creator
                • Oct 2008
                • 9488

                #8
                Originally posted by kfxguy
                It's only 1500kv. It was turning 37k rpm. Isn't "saw" rpm over 40k? So technically this is my "sport" setup. The amps weren't over 170 at full throttle. I should have more room to play. Hint....9s will fit in the boat. Lol.
                Your graph shows over 37k.. it shows a ceiling of 37,919 in the program
                should be somewhere closer to 43-44k on 8s
                .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                • kfxguy
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 8746

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Brushless55
                  Your graph shows over 37k.. it shows a ceiling of 37,919 in the program
                  should be somewhere closer to 43-44k on 8s
                  The ceiling in the graph is 37,919...that's because that was the max Rpm it recorded. If I go run it again on a different voltage, that ceiling will change again to the max rpm it saw.
                  32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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                  • Brushless55
                    Creator
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 9488

                    #10
                    What I am saying is the top of the log is the ceiling in the program for that run..
                    if you look at the top you will see it basically crushed it and possibly ran higher that what the screen is showing you
                    each line goes up 3,381 rpms and tops out at 37,919 in that program on the screen
                    if you could go up another two lines you would see the next line read 41,300rpms and the next read 44,681rpms and even a third read 48,062
                    it's not letting you see the actual peak rpms cuz it is crushing the ceiling of the program on that screen shot.. if that makes sense
                    .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                    • kevinpratt823
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 1361

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Brushless55
                      What I am saying is the top of the log is the ceiling in the program for that run..
                      if you look at the top you will see it basically crushed it and possibly ran higher that what the screen is showing you
                      each line goes up 3,381 rpms and tops out at 37,919 in that program on the screen
                      if you could go up another two lines you would see the next line read 41,300rpms and the next read 44,681rpms and even a third read 48,062
                      it's not letting you see the actual peak rpms cuz it is crushing the ceiling of the program on that screen shot.. if that makes sense
                      I don't think so......anytime the sf loads data with the rpm as the vertical left line, the ceiling changes to the max rpm, which is the purple graph line. The blue line is throttle input, which flattens out at 100%, right where the rpm reaches the top of the graph.....37,919 was his peak rpm(loaded) on that run. Though his unloaded rpm would be over 44,000.
                      My private off road rc track
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC3H...yaNZNA&index=8

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                      • kfxguy
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 8746

                        #12
                        Originally posted by kevinpratt823
                        I don't think so......anytime the sf loads data with the rpm as the vertical left line, the ceiling changes to the max rpm, which is the purple graph line. The blue line is throttle input, which flattens out at 100%, right where the rpm reaches the top of the graph.....37,919 was his peak rpm(loaded) on that run. Though his unloaded rpm would be over 44,000.

                        Exactly what I was trying to say. If anyone know how to make the graph go higher, let me know. Thx
                        32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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                        • kevinpratt823
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 1361

                          #13
                          Originally posted by kfxguy
                          Exactly what I was trying to say. If anyone know how to make the graph go higher, let me know. Thx
                          That's easy, run 9s lol.
                          My private off road rc track
                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC3H...yaNZNA&index=8

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                          • kfxguy
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Oct 2013
                            • 8746

                            #14
                            Originally posted by kevinpratt823
                            That's easy, run 9s lol.

                            That may be in the cards. I've got to get it tweaked on 8s first. I've always felt like just throwing more voltage at it without lining it out first on the voltage I have, is not the best thing to do lol.
                            32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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                            • kevinpratt823
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 1361

                              #15
                              I agree, but didn't you already just go from 6, to 7, to 8s in one day?
                              My private off road rc track
                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC3H...yaNZNA&index=8

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