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  • klbo
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2014
    • 104

    #1

    Carbon fiber epoxy?

    I'm trying to epoxy two pieces of carbon fiber together I scuffed up both sides mixed up a batch of epoxy and the two pieces chipped right apart there was no bond i'm using zap Epoxy it's Z proxy finishing resin looks like I might have to buy some new epoxy I thought this would bond to the carbon fiber
  • kfxguy
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Oct 2013
    • 8746

    #2
    I know jb quick and jb weld bonds really well. It needs to be scuffed with very coarse sandpaper.
    32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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    • klbo
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2014
      • 104

      #3
      I'm going to need to Epoxy my carbon fiber motor mounts if this Epoxy doesn't stick to these two plates not gonna work well for my mounts either

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      • Fluid
        Fast and Furious
        • Apr 2007
        • 8012

        #4
        Finishing resin is....for making a finish, not great at bonding. JB is very good, parts need to be free of any oil or grease and roughed up a bit though. What type of carbon fiber? For what purpose are you gluing the parts together?




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        • klbo
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2014
          • 104

          #5
          I was doubling up two 2.5 MM carbon fiber plates for a stuffing tube support support and I also have to glass in carbon fiber to carbon fiber motor mounts

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          • tlandauer
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Apr 2011
            • 5666

            #6
            As said, Finishing Epoxy ( PT-40) is for finishing, meaning that it is much easier to sand than the PT-39 ( 30 min. epoxy). It cures with a more brittle quality than its counter part. However, it should not chip right apart like that. How long has it been on the shelf? I never use that for structural bond but on occasion I have used the PT-40 MIXED with milled fiber glass with no problems whatsoever. I just made a rudder bracket extender out of CG plate, 2.5mm, just to give you an idea, I sand with 80 grit sand paper and when I rub the areas where I plan to glue, the friction is very noticeable.
            Just my $.02
            Too many boats, not enough time...

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            • klbo
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2014
              • 104

              #7
              It was pt 40 but the mixing cup hardend very brittle time for new epoxy?

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              • tlandauer
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Apr 2011
                • 5666

                #8
                Originally posted by klbo
                It was pt 40 but the mixing cup hardend very brittle time for new epoxy?
                Well, the little amount on the inner wall of the cup is always brittle, especially for the PT-40. Yes, your results will be better with PT-39.
                Sand and clean with acetone before applying the epoxy. I also clean the mixing cup with acetone and the mixing stick. JB weld is great but it doesn't flow well, so I use different epoxy depending on the application and location.

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                Too many boats, not enough time...

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                • LiPo Power
                  DJI Drone Advanced Pilot
                  • May 2009
                  • 3186

                  #9
                  JB Weld works for me very well on any material boat relating...
                  DJI Drone Advanced Pilot
                  Canada

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                  • kfxguy
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 8746

                    #10
                    I use jb weld on everything that I do not want to ever come undone. It has not let me down yet. I've had hard flips at 90+ and it held. I use other epoxies for the esc covers and stuff I may change later.
                    32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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                    • jcald2000
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2008
                      • 774

                      #11
                      Please don't use acetone it is EXTREMELY bad for your body, White Vinegar from the grocery store at $2.00 a gallon works great to remove uncured epoxy!

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                      • capnswanny
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 817

                        #12
                        Here's an excerpt from the West System (my favorite) Users Guide:
                        "Clean Bonding surfaces must be free of any contaminants such as grease, oil, wax or mold release. Clean contaminated surfaces with lacquer thinner, acetone or other appropriate solvent."http://www.westsystem.com/ss/surface-preparation/
                        This is NOT a toy?!?

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                        • jcald2000
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2008
                          • 774

                          #13
                          Now look up it's effects on your body.

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                          • steinersamuel
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 405

                            #14
                            Nitrile gloves people

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                            • klbo
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2014
                              • 104

                              #15
                              Yes definitely nitrile gloves even when you are sanding carbon fiber definitely don't want to get any of that On you and yes all my parts were clean it even popped off the wood really easy bought some west systems 105 epoxy the 207 Clear Hardner

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