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  • properchopper
    • Apr 2007
    • 6968

    #31
    Originally posted by tlandauer
    Rusted hardware is frustrating, the water outlet on a popular 29" cat is rusted and I can't get it out to replace it. I have never sailed on salt water either and I am very good at maintenance, go figure. I am sure we would be happy to pay the few dollars more that are required to equip these RTR with better material.
    Since I have been bitten by the FE bug and now have a number of builds under my belt, I look at RTR with a different perspective. But I am aware that they served their purpose well on me and I will always look forward to the next build or something that is built by a well respected member here at the Forum.
    Tim, Bring it over, I'll fix it
    2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
    2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
    '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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    • Foamaholic
      Member
      • Dec 2011
      • 30

      #32
      My Proboat Impulse rudder pin rusted and broke off first season while running, no rudder.

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      • Heaving Earth
        Banned
        • Jun 2012
        • 1877

        #33
        I have a SERIOUS dislike for proboat. I think the hulls are cool, but EVERYTHING else is rubbish IMO. Aquacraft I really like however. No rust or faulty gear so far. Can't say that for the pb stuff
        Last edited by Heaving Earth; 08-29-2013, 05:47 PM.

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        • tlandauer
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Apr 2011
          • 5666

          #34
          Originally posted by properchopper
          Tim, Bring it over, I'll fix it
          Tony,
          Thanks for the offer! When we get together I will have you take a look!
          Too many boats, not enough time...

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          • tlandauer
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Apr 2011
            • 5666

            #35
            Originally posted by Doby
            Conclusion...Proboat water outlets rust a bit......
            That's what I said in my reply to just reflect my personal experience, I would have been happier if I could change it, but it has been three years like this and was rusting after the maiden, no big deal. The plating on the fitting was pitted coming out of factory. I never intended to bash certain brand, I hope this has not stirred up anything, it is silly to get all worked up for this topic. The bottom line is that as I grew more advanced , I started to look for things RTR can't offer, and the only solution is to build the boat myself or have someone who is an expert build it for me to my spec.
            Pure and simple!
            Last edited by tlandauer; 08-29-2013, 07:48 PM.
            Too many boats, not enough time...

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            • lenny
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Sep 2010
              • 4294

              #36

              Trouble maker.

              Most of the gelcoats sucks on Proboat rtr but that is because the hulls are so thin and flex a lot,
              And they crack right out of the box some times.
              My Aquacraft rtr hulls are much thicker and the gelcoat does not crack so easy.
              ? ONLY IF THEY WORK

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              • Skullcracken
                Senior Member
                • May 2010
                • 617

                #37
                Originally posted by Darin Jordan
                Rusty Fasteners on RTR boats? THAT is what we are complaining about now?

                Hmmmm... Well... that's pretty cool then... we must be doing something right if the complaints are now down to that.

                I've been racing RTR boats for more years than many of these have actually been on the market, and haven't really suffered from "Rusty Fastener Syndrome"...

                But, then, I take pride in my boats and don't put them away dripping wet, always wiping them down and setting them out to dry before storing them away.

                I'd like to see these RTR offerings be delivered equivalent to the $600.00+ custom rigs you see out there as well... but, I'm certain that none of you would pay the price for them if they did.

                And, honestly, I'd rather put the limited budgets we do have to develop these boats into the things you CAN'T easily upgrade.

                All that said, just like with the Traxxas Stampedes and Rustlers of yor... these boats serve as a very valuable and excellent entry point into the hobby, and offering them at the most reasonable price possible is going to continue being key.
                Everyone's missing the boat here. No pun intended... I don't expect RTR's with Neu motors and castle esc's. I expect a 35-40mph boat. I just don't understand using any hardware that will rust easily on a watercraft. Its not the cost of replacing all of the non stainless hardware that's the pain in the rear, its the time and effort. Why use cheap "nuts and bolts" to put on pretty nice hardware? It reminds me of home builders that cut corners. Stone siding, granite counter tops, but lets skip a few tack-ins on the trusses to save money. I just hate dealing with set screws stripping out, rusting, or unscrewing a stainless bolt to replace its non-stainless, rusted washer. Id rather replace a cheap plastic prop and upgrade to a metal prop, than have rusted screws to measure and figure out sizes, and order them and pay more for the shipping than the screws cost.

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                • DPeterson
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 842

                  #38
                  Doby - Sounds as though your boats are in really good shape. How come your driving is so rusty?

                  Just kidding - Doug
                  Doug Peterson
                  IMPBA 19993
                  www.badgerboaters.com

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                  • Flying Scotsman
                    Fast Electric Adict!
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 5190

                    #39
                    Do not worry Doug, he is from the Toronto area (have pity on him) and nothing goes awry there, that only occurs in every other part of the world, but Doby does have a lot of redeeming qualities.... as an example, takes his RTR boats to bed with him and cuddles them...no wonder there is very little rust!!!you have seen his driving skills....enough said.
                    I do not know why I still think he is a neat guy?

                    A perplexed Douggie

                    Originally posted by DPeterson
                    Doby - Sounds as though your boats are in really good shape. How come your driving is so rusty?

                    Just kidding - Doug

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                    • Doby
                      KANADA RULES!
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 7280

                      #40
                      Originally posted by DPeterson
                      Doby - Sounds as though your boats are in really good shape. How come your driving is so rusty?

                      Just kidding - Doug
                      For the same reason they don't rust...they barely get wet!
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                      • Sobie2
                        Junior Member
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 13

                        #41
                        Ok so what is a fast 6s capable good foundation of and RTR to build off of that is worthy of modding later, but fast enough to start off with (not a first boat). I believe something with all metal running gear is a must.

                        I am not thinking a base boat should be between $250-$500. Hydro, Tunnel, Cat, Mono are all fair game.

                        Sobie2

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                        • tiqueman
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 5669

                          #42
                          Read this when Keith first posted it... just saw this and had to chuckle. This is a picture from Horizon hobby in the images section for the new Volere 22 EP RTR V2
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                          Geico epoxy laminate hatch sale thread Black Jack epoxy laminate hatch sale thread
                          HPR06 6S Twin HOTR Genesis (SOLD) Vantex 32" cat Geico racing
                          WEST FL MODEL BOAT CLUB www.scottskiracing.com

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                          • tlandauer
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 5666

                            #43
                            It's not RUST, it's AREA 51 new locktite.
                            Too many boats, not enough time...

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                            • tiqueman
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 5669

                              #44
                              Ahhh yeah, Ive heard about it but not yet seen it.
                              Geico epoxy laminate hatch sale thread Black Jack epoxy laminate hatch sale thread
                              HPR06 6S Twin HOTR Genesis (SOLD) Vantex 32" cat Geico racing
                              WEST FL MODEL BOAT CLUB www.scottskiracing.com

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                              • BHChieftain
                                Fast Electric Addict
                                • Nov 2009
                                • 1969

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Sobie2
                                Ok so what is a fast 6s capable good foundation of and RTR to build off of that is worthy of modding later, but fast enough to start off with (not a first boat). I believe something with all metal running gear is a must.

                                I am not thinking a base boat should be between $250-$500. Hydro, Tunnel, Cat, Mono are all fair game.

                                Sobie2
                                Hi,
                                I would recommend the Proboat Miss Geico. It has a 1500kv motor (vs. the Blackjacks' 1800kv motor) which can be run 4S-6S. If you run 6S you would need to upgrade the speed controller. Start on 4S you can everything stock. Upgrade all the connectors to 5.5mm bullets then put an x642 prop on it and it will run fast and solid on 4S. Upgrade the ESC then you can run 6S (but I would prop down to keep the speeds mid 50s).

                                If your plan to run 6S is to get 60+, you can do it with this boat, but the hull may not survive too many crashes at that speed.

                                Please see this thread for mods on the boat

                                http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...t-modification

                                Chief
                                Last edited by BHChieftain; 08-31-2013, 10:55 AM.

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