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  • Doozie870
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2007
    • 828

    #1

    Outrunners

    Really looking into brushless just to see what kind of power package I can put together for under $150.00 Was wondering how outrunners do in boats say on 4s (assuming the kv was high enough) noticing some cooling fan kits that direct mount to the motor, do they work well enough? or should I just stick with a inrunner or maybe a hybrid in/out runner? planning on 100 amp esc min.
  • Ub Hauled
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Aug 2007
    • 3031

    #2
    What kinda Outties are you thinking about and for what boat Dooz?
    :::::::::::::::. It's NEVER fast enough! .:::::::::::::::

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    • Diegoboy
      Administrator
      • Mar 2007
      • 7244

      #3
      The renegade rigger uses an outrunner. They have more torque than the equivalent Inrunner motors do, but they have to be mounted differently due to the can has to spin.
      "A quick temper will make a fool of you soon enough."
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      • Ub Hauled
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Aug 2007
        • 3031

        #4
        True, it is a zippy little guy.. although I placed a Mega 16/20/2 in there... killer speeds but no reliability... I should have left the outrunner in there.
        The outrunners can be installed as a regular can but no cooling can be attached to it... I have tried that as well in my Viper II... not enough RPMs
        :::::::::::::::. It's NEVER fast enough! .:::::::::::::::

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        • Dr. Jet
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Sep 2007
          • 1707

          #5
          I've been fooling with little outrunners in micros recently, and all I can say is that they work. They have enough torque to spin a reasonable sized (for the micros) prop at a reasonable rpm without generating enough heat to require cooling. There is enough power in these micros to blow them off the water with the little outties if you are not careful with the throttle. I have seen some outrunners that incorporate a fan or other means to move air across the windings.

          Little outrunners (Speed 400 sized) can be found in a variety of Kvs ranging from around 1200 rpm/V up to 5000 rpm/V. For bigger and more powerful hulls, I think inrunners may be the way to go. The bigger outrunners generally do not have the Kv needed for FE applications.
          A nation of sheep breeds a government of wolves

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          • Ub Hauled
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Aug 2007
            • 3031

            #6
            Doc Jet said it all...
            they work for little boats and "innies" work fr bigger hulls.
            :::::::::::::::. It's NEVER fast enough! .:::::::::::::::

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            • Diegoboy
              Administrator
              • Mar 2007
              • 7244

              #7
              Originally posted by Ub Hauled
              The outrunners can be installed as a regular can but no cooling can be attached to it...
              Hold the phone... My renegade is watercooled.

              "A quick temper will make a fool of you soon enough."
              . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Bruce Lee. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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              • 62 bugzilla
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2008
                • 258

                #8
                plate cooling outrunner

                does that plate help alot on the renegade ? I have one and wish I could have longer run times.
                SV 27,brushless mini vee,renegade rigger,twinstorm,micro drifter,super hawaii , 1/12 miss budwieser

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                • Diegoboy
                  Administrator
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 7244

                  #9
                  As long as your battery holds out, it can run longer.
                  "A quick temper will make a fool of you soon enough."
                  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Bruce Lee. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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                  • 62 bugzilla
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 258

                    #10
                    battery

                    Ya I balloned and overheated a couple so far. Have you tried a 1500 3s 20c to see if that helps? They are just a tad bigger.
                    SV 27,brushless mini vee,renegade rigger,twinstorm,micro drifter,super hawaii , 1/12 miss budwieser

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                    • Doozie870
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 828

                      #11
                      So has anyone tried the cooling fan? they seem to have a higher operating temperature. From the eflight outrunner motor manual "max operating temp is 220 degrees" lol

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