Any tips for soldering motor & ESC wires to 8mm Castle connectors ?

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  • properchopper
    • Apr 2007
    • 6968

    #1

    Any tips for soldering motor & ESC wires to 8mm Castle connectors ?

    Been having trouble with wires coming out of the solder joint. I usually fill the connector with solder using a small butane torch and insert the wire inside while the solder is liquid, then let it cool and finish off with a soldering tip. I use 62/36/2 solder. I guess I could have doubled over the wire end; the hole in the 8mm is LARGE. Any better ideas that has worked for you ?
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  • dana
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    • Mar 2010
    • 3573

    #2
    When exactly are they coming lose tony? When running?

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    • jkr
      FE Addiction
      • Aug 2010
      • 568

      #3
      The wire is coming out with the hole solder?
      I use flux and solder on the wire before i do the joint.

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      • properchopper
        • Apr 2007
        • 6968

        #4
        Originally posted by dana
        When exactly are they coming lose tony? When running?
        Customer's boat. Ran great, brought it in. Next power-up it cogged.
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        • dana
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          • Mar 2010
          • 3573

          #5
          Hmmm... Have you tried 60/40 solder? Or solid silver solder?

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          • properchopper
            • Apr 2007
            • 6968

            #6
            Originally posted by jkr
            The wire is coming out with the hole solder?
            I use flux and solder on the wire before i do the joint.
            That's what I did when I repaired it this morning. When I removed the original connectors (Leo 4082) using a torch, I assumed (yeah, I know ) that there was enough "tinning" on the bare wire end to suffice. Still, the 8mm connector's hole leaves a lot of open space to fill with solder. I'm considering crimping/soldering some brass tubing on the bare wires to step up the diameter of what gets inserted into the bullet. Hmmmm...
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            • properchopper
              • Apr 2007
              • 6968

              #7
              Originally posted by dana
              Hmmm... Have you tried 60/40 solder? Or solid silver solder?
              My thinking is that the extra 2% silver in the 62/36/2 solder would make it a bit stronger than the regualar 60/40 stuff. I'll have to look into the silver solder issue; haven't tried it so I'll have to learn about it.
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              • dana
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                • Mar 2010
                • 3573

                #8
                Can I ask what Leo motor? Prop? Cell count?

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                • jkr
                  FE Addiction
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 568

                  #9
                  Originally posted by properchopper
                  That's what I did when I repaired it this morning. When I removed the original connectors (Leo 4082) using a torch, I assumed (yeah, I know ) that there was enough "tinning" on the bare wire end to suffice. Still, the 8mm connector's hole leaves a lot of open space to fill with solder. I'm considering crimping/soldering some brass tubing on the bare wires to step up the diameter of what gets inserted into the bullet. Hmmmm...
                  Try to make raf surface in the connector.
                  I also use 60/40 solder iwith no problems.

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                  • siberianhusky
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 2187

                    #10
                    Are you putting some heat to the connector after you put the wire in? Might be getting a cold joint at the center of the big hole. Lots of surface area to heat with those big un's
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                    • properchopper
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 6968

                      #11
                      Originally posted by siberianhusky
                      Are you putting some heat to the connector after you put the wire in? Might be getting a cold joint at the center of the big hole. Lots of surface area to heat with those big un's
                      I keep the torch on the connector to keep the solder liquified while I insert the wire. I think better tinning of the wire end is one step I can do better.

                      Here's something I found :

                      As a starting place, for most small electronics soldering, 1/32 inch (.03) rosin-cored, 60/40 (tin-lead) or 63/37 solder should work fine. Rosin-cored lead-free is fine, too. Unless you have reason otherwise, don’t use “no-clean” solder–it’s very likely that you don’t need to clean the regular rosin-cored solder. The solder should be thin enough to prevent […]
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                      • dana
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                        • Mar 2010
                        • 3573

                        #12
                        Anyways, seems like desoldering issues can only be fixed one way. A different setup. Jmtc

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                        • properchopper
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 6968

                          #13
                          Originally posted by dana
                          Anyways, seems like desoldering issues can only be fixed one way. A different setup. Jmtc
                          This boat ran with cool motor and ESC temps and used a very moderate amount of mah. The setup was mild. My soldering sucked, pretty sure that was all.
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                          • dana
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                            • Mar 2010
                            • 3573

                            #14
                            Oh, we'll bad soldering is a problem lol. Given the small amount of info you have it's hard to diagnose that. Sounds like you solder like I do tho... And my stuff is ok. I do tin motor leads very well first tho, and I don't bother with a soldering iron after. All torch buddy

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                            • numse1964
                              Member
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 37

                              #15
                              Hi

                              Be sure your cable is hot. You must use quit big cables for these connectors, and they will build a cold bridge if they ain't about the same temp as the solder and connector.

                              Best regards Henrik

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