T-180 Thermaling ?

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  • properchopper
    • Apr 2007
    • 6968

    #16
    Originally posted by jcald2000
    I normally keep my boats and controllers in the shade, this weekend at 79 degrees F I decided not to put up the canopy, I hit my SF 240 with the Temp gun about 20 min's before my heat, 130 F!!!
    Ishieldedd it with the hatch down to 90 F before I taped up,
    I had some thoughts along those lines. To test, before taping up for a race heat I hit the esc with the spray from a can of Ultra Duster
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    It "frosted" the outside of the cooling plate and some of the esc. (there was a racer at the Nat's who, with similar thinking, circulated icewater through his cooling lines before running). Not sure how effective these practices are. I did experience the thermaling after doing this. I tend to think that regardless of the starting temperature, the esc temperature will rapidly equilibrate and reach it's peak operating temperature regardless. Of course the temperature of ambient air surrounding the esc and the temperature of the circulating cooling water while underway will have a large part in determining what the ultimate peak operating temperature will be. (I'm open to being corrected for this line of thinking by anyone with a better grip on the subject)

    Be nice if these practices could be investigated with a temp-logging esc or temp-sensor equipped EagleTree.
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    • Brushless55
      Creator
      • Oct 2008
      • 9488

      #17
      Ok, we had our two day finals this weekend and in fact I just got back a few hours ago...
      sounds like my T180 that I just bought used two weeks ago is doing this thermal thingy, but my temps are only about 125* on the esc and 95* on the motor
      it would slow to a crawl after the 5th lap with my PMono
      and I only used 40% of my packs

      is there any way to shut this off?

      thanks
      .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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      • KartRacer
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 355

        #18
        Originally posted by Brushless55
        Ok, we had our two day finals this weekend and in fact I just got back a few hours ago...
        sounds like my T180 that I just bought used two weeks ago is doing this thermal thingy, but my temps are only about 125* on the esc and 95* on the motor
        it would slow to a crawl after the 5th lap with my PMono
        and I only used 40% of my packs


        is there any way to shut this off?

        thanks
        Brushless55
        Could it LVC kicking in?
        KartRacer ~ Dennis B
        Delta Force Pirate 35'~Leopard 4092~1480Kv~Seaking 180~2X6S 65C 5000 Mha Dynogy Lipo,Parallel

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        • Brushless55
          Creator
          • Oct 2008
          • 9488

          #19
          Originally posted by KartRacer
          Brushless55
          Could it LVC kicking in?
          I thought it was that but my packs came back with 60% left in the packs, and that's 6000mah left
          but I did shut off the LVC and tried again only to have the esc do the same thing..
          came to a crawl, like 10-15% throttle
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          • Make-a-Wake
            FE Rules!
            • Nov 2009
            • 5557

            #20
            Hey Todd. if thats the one I sent you its been working fine. Reset everything. Upon pluuging up have it at full throttle and recalibrate the endpoints, then set the LVC at 2.8v, or shut it off.

            Do you have a manual/setup sheet?

            Every now and then they need reclaibration. It happened to me at the MS races a year ago, I was way out front and it cut to 50% or so. Recalibrated it all and it went fine.
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            • Brushless55
              Creator
              • Oct 2008
              • 9488

              #21
              Originally posted by Make-a-Wake
              Hey Todd. if thats the one I sent you its been working fine. Reset everything. Upon pluuging up have it at full throttle and recalibrate the endpoints, then set the LVC at 2.8v, or shut it off.

              Do you have a manual/setup sheet?

              Every now and then they need reclaibration. It happened to me at the MS races a year ago, I was way out front and it cut to 50% or so. Recalibrated it all and it went fine.
              it is that one..
              I don't think it's a calibration issue, but I will try it
              I removed the lvc and it does run great until about 2min into the race...
              then it goes to about 10-15% throttle...
              love to find out how to shut off that part all together..
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              • Make-a-Wake
                FE Rules!
                • Nov 2009
                • 5557

                #22
                So you have a manual and you turned the LVC off.........right? If so, there shouldnt be a problem......................hmmmm
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                • Brushless55
                  Creator
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 9488

                  #23
                  yeah I reset the esc before the first run....
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                  • Cooper
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 1141

                    #24
                    Mine did something similar. I thought it was temp also. After installing fresh batt and on a cold esc ran for 30 seconds and it kicked down to like 50%. I'm thinking it has an over amp protection circuit. Several times I have done this and same results each time. Ran a big prop and it slows down. Bring it back in and reboot and run, does it again. Put smaller prop on same set up run all day.
                    My actual knowledge on this speedo is just from firs hand use, never had a manuel or looked at paperwork. But I could swear this esc has temp cut off protection and over amp protection. When it over temps it just shuts off. When over amp it throttles back. And in my opinion this is one of the best esc's china makes.

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