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  • Steven Vaccaro
    Administrator
    • Apr 2007
    • 8721

    #16
    Castle is having the some guys return esc after esc. I sell a guy a esc and give a suggested setup and then when they blow i find out they went their own route because my setup was to conservative.

    I stopped selling the x-power 40 amp for a similar reason. I have guys trying to use 50amp motors on them. lol

    Most of you guys that read this forum, read for a reason. To gain an education or help educate. Its the guys that jump in head first without any idea that are causing issues.
    Steven Vaccaro

    Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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    • kburrows
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2008
      • 547

      #17
      good point, blow up first ask questions later...lol, not my moto i want to be as safe as possible. FE ESC setups is a really good topic to expand on for newbies like me.

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      • JimClark
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Apr 2007
        • 5907

        #18
        So it should be rock solid in a 1/10th scale boat using a 1500 to 1800 KV motor and 2 2s packs?

        Jim
        "Our society strives to avoid any possibility of offending anyone except God.
        Billy Graham

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        • Steven Vaccaro
          Administrator
          • Apr 2007
          • 8721

          #19
          Originally posted by kburrows
          good point, blow up first ask questions later...lol, not my moto i want to be as safe as possible. FE ESC setups is a really good topic to expand on for newbies like me.
          Ken you should be fine with your setup. Start with a small prop and work up. Thats the part most people miss. If you start with a small prop, heat will build up slower. Allowing for testing and prop changes to settle on the right size.
          Steven Vaccaro

          Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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          • Steven Vaccaro
            Administrator
            • Apr 2007
            • 8721

            #20
            Originally posted by JimClark
            So it should be rock solid in a 1/10th scale boat using a 1500 to 1800 KV motor and 2 2s packs?

            Jim
            which Jim? A hydra 120?
            Steven Vaccaro

            Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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            • Ctonez
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2007
              • 404

              #21
              Originally posted by JimClark
              So it should be rock solid in a 1/10th scale boat using a 1500 to 1800 KV motor and 2 2s packs?

              Jim
              which motor?

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              • Xzessperated
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Apr 2008
                • 3060

                #22
                Originally posted by D.Smock
                I have run a 240 in a 38" mono (oval setup) without an issue as well.
                What I was getting at is that a data logger may not help the guy who is running a 6S motor on 4s. That is a hot setup even with a small wheel, with a big wheel my guess is that the control would give up pretty quickly.

                I too will run German controls before I spring for the HVs.
                That may change after this weekends SAWs. There are a few guys running them so we'll see how they perform.

                Got to get loaded up, have a great weekend guys!!

                Doug
                Yes you are correct Doug. Sorry I misunderstood your meaning. In my case I had to learn these things do not like to run slow.

                My big YGE will come in as the coolest thing in my boat after the same amount of runs as the Barra. The Hydra 240 is getting up close to the German prices so I can see why people are not happy with 3s

                Again I say do not copy the things that I do because I do not mind if I smoke an esc occasionally.

                Paddy
                Several boats in various stages of destruction

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                • JimClark
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 5907

                  #23
                  yes the 120

                  Originally posted by Steven Vaccaro
                  which Jim? A hydra 120?
                  "Our society strives to avoid any possibility of offending anyone except God.
                  Billy Graham

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                  • JimClark
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 5907

                    #24
                    Either the SV27 or the Himax that ERCU uses Himax 3630-1500

                    Originally posted by Ctonez
                    which motor?
                    "Our society strives to avoid any possibility of offending anyone except God.
                    Billy Graham

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                    • Eyekandyboats
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 1921

                      #25
                      Don't Down talk castle products , that is just uncalled for. it is made in USA and is a very quality product. they use all the best the MOSFEST on there esc's are known to most electronic engineers as top of the line. when you look at a HI model or any of the "HI " stuff uses old Fets that were developed over 14 years ago!.
                      there product is THE best, Heck even schulze uses Old fets But they are very simple esc's.
                      Castle has to do this because of the loss of money. not because there esc's are underrated or anything.
                      EYEKANDYGRAPHICS

                      www.rclipos.com

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                      • NorthernBoater
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 811

                        #26
                        What they need to do is give a recommend wattage rating for all the cell counts. This is would get rid of some issues.

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                        • Bill-SOCAL
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 1404

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Eyekandyboats
                          Don't Down talk castle products , that is just uncalled for. it is made in USA and is a very quality product.
                          You know of course that they got sued and lost in California for claiming they were made in the US, right?? And why is that so important? We live in a global economy and unless you are advocating a protectionist economic policy (as opposed to free trade), then the country of origin cannot be an important factor in determining the value of a product.

                          Castle has to do this because of the loss of money. not because there esc's are underrated or anything.
                          OK. They are losing money because of high failure rates of the product that was being used within the parameters they originally defined?? Now they have redefined those operating parameters to eliminate a vast number of the current user base. But the product is fine?? Well, that is one way to look at it.
                          Don't get me started

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                          • Steven Vaccaro
                            Administrator
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 8721

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Bill-SOCAL
                            OK. They are losing money because of high failure rates of the product that was being used within the parameters they originally defined?? Now they have redefined those operating parameters to eliminate a vast number of the current user base. But the product is fine?? Well, that is one way to look at it.
                            Bill I have to totally disagree. The entire problem is that they are not being used within the parameters! Being used within the parameters would be you either knew a good setup or had the knowledge to start out on the right track. There are tons of people that go at this backwards. Blow it up than ask why? A 8s feigao on 4s lipo in a 30 plus inch boat is not within the parameters. But you know what, that guy still blamed the esc. I have personally blown 2 barracuda 80's in the last 4 years. Both times my fault. I ran them on 18 cells with the bec and 4 cell receiver pack plugged in. Is that their fault? I can name dozens of setups I have had people ask me about "AFTER" they have blown something up. Is that Castles fault? Lipos have made it even worse. They deliver more power than ever. If you ran a crazy setup before, its possible that you would kill the pack first. Now lipos keep on dishing out the power.
                            Steven Vaccaro

                            Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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                            • Eyekandyboats
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 1921

                              #29
                              castle products are Made in the US, but are made with " offshore" parts.

                              i can use my esc with in the limits. But when you break is that is where it down fall comes. 4s is fine..... but 4s at 200 amps on a hydra 120 is not..... it is rated for 4S but NOT rated for 200 amps. THAT is where the problem lies.
                              there are many people as Steven said that have very little idea of how to set a motor esc and battery configuration up properly. and Amps are mostly a mystery to alot of people.
                              EYEKANDYGRAPHICS

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                              • Eyekandyboats
                                Fast Electric Addict!
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 1921

                                #30
                                Originally posted by NorthernBoater
                                What they need to do is give a recommend wattage rating for all the cell counts. This is would get rid of some issues.
                                they already do. wattage to some one who doesn't know how to setup a motor and esc and battery combo will be useless.
                                anyone knowing what they are doing with take voltage X amps to give you wattage.
                                EYEKANDYGRAPHICS

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