Got a New Boat for my 1 year Anniversary - few questions

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  • JIM MARCUM
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2011
    • 773

    #31
    My recommendations were based on lowest cost, not the best quality. By all means, run the Leopard, it's a great motor. If you want more speed CHEAP repeat CHEAP I still would try the HobbyKing KD 3674 1900KV XL motor.

    As to LIPOs, I recommend Turnigy Nano TEC, 5000mAh 50-65C, 5S2P. The Leopard @ 31,450 RPM on 5S should give you good speed for fun boating. Enjoy! JIM
    JIM MARCUM: NAMBA 777; EX? SoCal FE Racers Club; D-19; Official 2012 NAMBA FE Nationals Rescue Diver; Purple Heart Viet Nam Vet; Professional SCUBA/HOOKA Diver, KELCO, 1973-1978; BBA 1978, Magna Cum Laude; MBA 1980 w/honors; Retired DOD GS1102-12 Contract Specialist

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    • Visual Perfection
      Senior Member
      • May 2010
      • 312

      #32
      well hopefully my first few runs go well, I will be sure to update you all on my results when the boat gets here!
      The Speeders *PB SW 26 BL *PB Formula FASTech
      The Cruiser *CBM Marlin Cruiser
      The Pool Toys *Proboat Mini-C (x2)

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      • Make-a-Wake
        FE Rules!
        • Nov 2009
        • 5557

        #33
        Originally posted by JIM MARCUM
        My recommendations were based on lowest cost, not the best quality. By all means, run the Leopard, it's a great motor. If you want more speed CHEAP repeat CHEAP I still would try the HobbyKing KD 3674 1900KV XL motor.
        How do you figure that the "CHEAP" KD will give him more speed?
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        • JIM MARCUM
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2011
          • 773

          #34
          Math. JIM
          JIM MARCUM: NAMBA 777; EX? SoCal FE Racers Club; D-19; Official 2012 NAMBA FE Nationals Rescue Diver; Purple Heart Viet Nam Vet; Professional SCUBA/HOOKA Diver, KELCO, 1973-1978; BBA 1978, Magna Cum Laude; MBA 1980 w/honors; Retired DOD GS1102-12 Contract Specialist

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          • Visual Perfection
            Senior Member
            • May 2010
            • 312

            #35
            Just got back from Vacation today and my boat was waiting for me.

            Initial impressions...this boat is huge! I am really excited to get it out on the water, and to now have a boat large enough to handle some windy conditions that my smaller boats couldnt always handle.

            The hardware on the boat seems excellent as well, and overall quality of the boat is great.

            Few questions, I went ahead and programed the ESC for 11.5* timing, is this a good place to start with this motor, or should I put it lower/higher?

            I figured that was in the middle so should be a safe place to put it until you guys can tell me what would be right.

            Last question, I changed out the deans to 4mm bullets (my 5.5's haven't showed up yet) so that I can use it with my packs. I will be running 2x 2s Lipos in series to make 4s. I want to make sure this is right the way I am hooking it up. So am I right to Hook negative from one battery to positive of other battery, and then hook up esc to the other positive and negative from the batteries?

            Thanks!

            Here are a few pictures









            The Speeders *PB SW 26 BL *PB Formula FASTech
            The Cruiser *CBM Marlin Cruiser
            The Pool Toys *Proboat Mini-C (x2)

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            • Rumdog
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Mar 2009
              • 6453

              #36
              10-4 on the battery connection.
              A little advice..
              Take it easy the first few runs. I dont mean go slow. The more you are wide open, the easier it is on your gear. What I mean is, run about a minute max, then check temps. Actually time it. It is a little extra work, and hard to do sometimes with the excitement of running a new boat, but it's better than regretting you didn't.
              What prop is on the boat?

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              • runzwithsizorz
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 896

                #37
                Originally posted by Visual Perfection
                Just got back from Vacation today and my boat was waiting for me.

                Initial impressions...this boat is huge! I am really excited to get it out on the water, and to now have a boat large enough to handle some windy conditions that my smaller boats couldnt always handle.

                The hardware on the boat seems excellent as well, and overall quality of the boat is great.

                Few questions, I went ahead and programed the ESC for 11.5* timing, is this a good place to start with this motor, or should I put it lower/higher?

                I figured that was in the middle so should be a safe place to put it until you guys can tell me what would be right.

                Last question, I changed out the deans to 4mm bullets (my 5.5's haven't showed up yet) so that I can use it with my packs. I will be running 2x 2s Lipos in series to make 4s. I want to make sure this is right the way I am hooking it up. So am I right to Hook negative from one battery to positive of other battery, and then hook up esc to the other positive and negative from the batteries?

                Thanks!

                Here are a few pictures









                I will admit that some of my turn fins have a rather keen edge, But, turn fin booties???? Is congress back in session?

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                • Visual Perfection
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 312

                  #38
                  I will make sure to do that.

                  While on that subject, yet unrelated, I know running part throttle is harder on the esc but is that because you are going part throttle to wide open off and on that stresses it, or is the part throttle itself the cause of it? In otherwords, if I were to make it so Wide open is actually only 50% power using my transmitter settings, so the boat is slower for say a person learning, but they drove wide open the whole time, is that okay, or is that hard on things?

                  As for the prop, it says Prather 225 on it. I am not sure if that will work, I assume it will since these things were way, way underpowered stock, and they still ran 4s through them with this prop, but maybe I should pull that off and put my Fastech Prop on it which is the equivalent to a prather 215 to break in it first doing the minute, bring it in and check temps thing..and then move up to the 225?
                  The Speeders *PB SW 26 BL *PB Formula FASTech
                  The Cruiser *CBM Marlin Cruiser
                  The Pool Toys *Proboat Mini-C (x2)

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                  • Visual Perfection
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 312

                    #39
                    Originally posted by runzwithsizorz
                    I will admit that some of my turn fins have a rather keen edge, But, turn fin booties???? Is congress back in session?
                    haha, ya it came with those on it. they are like a hard rubber material. The manual even says to leave them on when not in the water to avoid injury. Those suckers are razor sharp, so I plan to keep them on when it's not in use. I figure Better safe than sorry.
                    The Speeders *PB SW 26 BL *PB Formula FASTech
                    The Cruiser *CBM Marlin Cruiser
                    The Pool Toys *Proboat Mini-C (x2)

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                    • Visual Perfection
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 312

                      #40
                      Can anyone comment on the Timing I have set on the ESC. I have it at 7.5* but I don't know what it should be at with this motor, or how to determine that. If someone could explain what it should be and why, it would be a great help.

                      I did change the prop to my Fastech prop which is the same size as a prather 215 on tonight, and took the stock prather 225 off. Should I even bother going with this smaller prop? Or should i just put the original 225 back on and do my testing from there?

                      Hoping to get it in the water tomorrow if the weather is nice in the late afternoon/evening

                      Thanks!
                      The Speeders *PB SW 26 BL *PB Formula FASTech
                      The Cruiser *CBM Marlin Cruiser
                      The Pool Toys *Proboat Mini-C (x2)

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                      • cpgise
                        Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 90

                        #41
                        I think the coil configuration has a part in the timing, like delta or wye. As well as the number of poles. For a lower pole motor usually a lower timing setting. I would maybe start lower, like 3.5.

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                        • Visual Perfection
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2010
                          • 312

                          #42
                          Got to run the boat tonight!

                          Here is the link: http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...352#post401352
                          The Speeders *PB SW 26 BL *PB Formula FASTech
                          The Cruiser *CBM Marlin Cruiser
                          The Pool Toys *Proboat Mini-C (x2)

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                          • JIM MARCUM
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 773

                            #43
                            I only recommend the "cheap" HK motors because they give you a chance to buy & compare how motors of varying can length & KVs might work in any given boat CHEAP. Your Leopard is much higher quality and still reasonably priced. I have at least 20 Leopard motors from 2860s to 5692s, several Turnigys, as well as the entire HK 36mm series. While I've melted the silver solder off the bullet connectors and otherwise tortured many, I have never smoked ANY of them (yet). Not even the stock Miss GEICO, & Apparition - single & twin - motors.

                            For good quality motors at a reasonable price, Leopard is hard to beat. If & when you want to get a top rated quality motor, You might want to look at Castle Creations Nu wound motors, or some of the others discussed on other OSE forums. JIM
                            JIM MARCUM: NAMBA 777; EX? SoCal FE Racers Club; D-19; Official 2012 NAMBA FE Nationals Rescue Diver; Purple Heart Viet Nam Vet; Professional SCUBA/HOOKA Diver, KELCO, 1973-1978; BBA 1978, Magna Cum Laude; MBA 1980 w/honors; Retired DOD GS1102-12 Contract Specialist

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