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  • floatn turd
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 267

    #1

    Stupid ESC question

    I have always had ESC's with no BEC. I just bought this one from Fightercat. I would have to assume the "black" wire is for the BEC. My question is what kind of battery should I use & who sells them? As I have never dealt with a BEC. Is there anything I should know??


    Here is a pic. (yes I know its small)
    PS its the black wire at the top of the picture. and it "disconnects" in the middle of the wire, its got like a tiny little bullet connector.
    show_image_in_imgtag.jpg

    thanks
    Last edited by floatn turd; 02-02-2012, 12:18 AM.
  • Diegoboy
    Administrator
    • Mar 2007
    • 7244

    #2
    The link doesn't work for non members.
    Since I can't see an image of the lead colors, typically the "middle" wire is the one you're looking for
    Here's a RX Battery
    Here's a RX pack for AA's
    "A quick temper will make a fool of you soon enough."
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    • floatn turd
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2011
      • 267

      #3
      I put a picture up, but my wire does not have the "connector" to plug into the RX


      I found a pic.
      08.jpg click for larger image



      Here are the specs:

      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

      Intruducing the FighterCat Racing OEM Series 240a HV ESC!

      Now with FighterCat V2 BootLoader Firmware!

      This batch has the 8mm bullets directly on the PCB for optimum performance! Each bullet has been checked for soldering quality and includes the male mates in the package.

      This FighterCat LV 240a ESC comes with software license for programming and an optional USB adapter for ease of programming. Alternatively can be programmed via the Tx and by field programmer. Field Programmer is the simplest, fastest and most convenient. It works using the internal ESC BEC. Just plug in from the rx, set and go!

      Components are designed to handle 35 volts, FET's 40v. Realistically, 35 volts or 8s operating voltage. (8s preferred max)

      •Max Constant Current: 240a (in optimal conditions)
      •Max Current: TBA
      •BEC: 3.5a Switching BEC (Add a BEC Capacitor for large scale servos)
      •PWM: 8 KHz 16 KHz 32KHz
      •Input: 2 to 8s LiPo (8s preferred max)


      Programming options:

      •Battery Type, Number of cells/auto, LVC Voltage & Cutoff type
      •Power Limit Forward & Reverse, 25, 50, 75 & 100%
      •Throttle Curve, Logarithmecal, linear, exponential
      •Acceleration, Soft, Medium & hard
      •Timing in 1 degree increments 1-30 degrees (Timing MUST be properly set or will cause failure)
      •Delay time, .25S to 5S
      •Timing Monitor, on/off (timing monitor will beep the timing setting when plugging in the ESC)
      •Reverse, on/off (turns off brake too)
      IMPORTANT: Timing must be set prior to test/use. DO NOT RELY ON FACTORY DEFAULTS THIS IS NOT A PLUG AND PLAY ESC

      © 2011 FighterCat LLC - All rights reserved. Firmware & programming software developed & written in co-ordination with FighterCat Racing.






      Basic Programming Steps for advanced users;
      1.Install the Prolific USB drivers (as administrator)
      2.Note the Port in Device Manager
      3.Install the FighterCat PCS .exe
      4.Launch the FighterCat PCS .exe
      5.Indicate USB Port From Device Manager in the PCS
      6.Connect 3s lipo to the ESC and the Motor
      7.Connect the USB to the ESC
      8.Select the ESC type until you hear a beep
      9.Set each parameter, ESC will beep when set.
      10.No beep, no set... lol.
      Get the field programmer. It rocks. 15 seconds to set an ESC and be done.
      Last edited by floatn turd; 02-02-2012, 12:36 AM.

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      • properchopper
        • Apr 2007
        • 6968

        #4
        Originally posted by floatn turd
        I have always had ESC's with no BEC. I just bought this one from Fightercat. I would have to assume the "black" wire is for the BEC. My question is what kind of battery should I use & who sells them? As I have never dealt with a BEC. Is there anything I should know??


        Here is a pic. (yes I know its small)
        PS its the black wire at the top of the picture. and it "disconnects" in the middle of the wire, its got like a tiny little bullet connector.
        [ATTACH=CONFIG]69682[/ATTACH]

        thanks
        Hold everything ! Your SC HAS a built-in BEC. DONT use a Rx battery ! The "mystery wire" is an anti-spark wire with built-in resistor. If you're using a 4S setup, you wont need it.
        2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
        2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
        '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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        • floatn turd
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2011
          • 267

          #5
          ahhhhhhh, and yes my set-up will be 4s thru 8s. So what do I hook that wire up too?


          P.S. How did that motor work out for you at the races? was my old motor a "big winner"?

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          • properchopper
            • Apr 2007
            • 6968

            #6
            Originally posted by floatn turd
            ahhhhhhh, and yes my set-up will be 4s thru 8s. So what do I hook that wire up too?


            P.S. How did that motor work out for you at the races? was my old motor a "big winner"?
            I only run 4S setups, never had a spark problem. When you connect the 6s + batteries you'll get a bigger spark so the resistor prevents having a BIG spark which over time will erode the connectors.

            Here's what I think works :

            #1 : before connecting batteries, plug black resistor wire in your nose and comb your hair real fast.

            OR

            #2 : I really don't know. My guess is that you connect the loose end to the battery neg (it's black so I'd assume it goes to the neg). Connect red batt wire to red SC wire. Join resistor wire at the little connector. Connect red battery wire to SC.

            Remember, the FCR speedies MUST be programmed before use. If you have the field programmer, use it. If you have the USB thang, good luck. I just got three FCR speedies & can't for the life of me get my cormputer to cooperate.

            Motor & SC tested fine in one boat; now installed in my latest build . Race is in 22 days and counting. Seven boats in seven classes. Digestive anomolies have begun
            2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
            2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
            '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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            • runzwithsizorz
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2009
              • 896

              #7
              Is the black, and red connector for the programmer? or some sort of by-pass for an RX battery pack? If the latter, I think that would be kinda neat, frees up a slot on receiver.
              Edit: a programmer would have to have 3 wires?
              Last edited by runzwithsizorz; 02-02-2012, 01:33 AM.

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              • properchopper
                • Apr 2007
                • 6968

                #8
                Just saw the picture. No idea about the black-red connector.
                2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
                2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
                '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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                • LiPo Power
                  DJI Drone Advanced Pilot
                  • May 2009
                  • 3186

                  #9
                  Reg picture post # 3
                  Red and Black is the wire to power up the cooling fan that is installed on the top of ESC.
                  Black, single wire is antispark.....( 1.Connect red from battery to ESC, 2. Connect the antispark with black battery wire and than connect the main black from battery and ESC, that way there will be no spark, spark went via resistor installed inside of the small black wire)
                  Cheers
                  Robert






                  Originally posted by properchopper
                  Just saw the picture. No idea about the black-red connector.
                  DJI Drone Advanced Pilot
                  Canada

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                  • LiPo Power
                    DJI Drone Advanced Pilot
                    • May 2009
                    • 3186

                    #10
                    Reg picture post # 3:

                    Black and red is for the built fan!!!!
                    Yes, programing wire would have 3 wires.....




                    Originally posted by runzwithsizorz
                    Is the black, and red connector for the programmer? or some sort of by-pass for an RX battery pack? If the latter, I think that would be kinda neat, frees up a slot on receiver.
                    Edit: a programmer would have to have 3 wires?
                    DJI Drone Advanced Pilot
                    Canada

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                    • LiPo Power
                      DJI Drone Advanced Pilot
                      • May 2009
                      • 3186

                      #11
                      That wire is antispark!!!!
                      Cheers
                      Robert





                      Originally posted by floatn turd
                      I have always had ESC's with no BEC. I just bought this one from Fightercat. I would have to assume the "black" wire is for the BEC. My question is what kind of battery should I use & who sells them? As I have never dealt with a BEC. Is there anything I should know??


                      Here is a pic. (yes I know its small)
                      PS its the black wire at the top of the picture. and it "disconnects" in the middle of the wire, its got like a tiny little bullet connector.
                      [ATTACH=CONFIG]69682[/ATTACH]

                      thanks
                      DJI Drone Advanced Pilot
                      Canada

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                      • floatn turd
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 267

                        #12
                        Originally posted by properchopper
                        I only run 4S setups, never had a spark problem. When you connect the 6s + batteries you'll get a bigger spark so the resistor prevents having a BIG spark which over time will erode the connectors.

                        Here's what I think works :

                        #1 : before connecting batteries, plug black resistor wire in your nose and comb your hair real fast.

                        OR

                        #2 : I really don't know. My guess is that you connect the loose end to the battery neg (it's black so I'd assume it goes to the neg). Connect red batt wire to red SC wire. Join resistor wire at the little connector. Connect red battery wire to SC.

                        Remember, the FCR speedies MUST be programmed before use. If you have the field programmer, use it. If you have the USB thang, good luck. I just got three FCR speedies & can't for the life of me get my cormputer to cooperate.

                        Motor & SC tested fine in one boat; now installed in my latest build . Race is in 22 days and counting. Seven boats in seven classes. Digestive anomolies have begun

                        Option #1 was a good one, funny S*#t... right there

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                        • floatn turd
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 267

                          #13
                          Originally posted by LiPo Power
                          That wire is antispark!!!!
                          Cheers
                          Robert
                          Lipo thanks for the info, the mystery has been solved..

                          thanks again

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                          • runzwithsizorz
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 896

                            #14
                            Not all mysteries have been solved. Still can't figure out post #9. must be some sort of code, . I think we're to go to the Total Coast, meet up with big name at the China market, and for only 10, we can run long time.

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                            • floatn turd
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 267

                              #15
                              Originally posted by runzwithsizorz
                              Not all mysteries have been solved. Still can't figure out post #9. must be some sort of code, . I think we're to go to the Total Coast, meet up with big name at the China market, and for only 10, we can run long time.
                              ya, his post was some "next level s*it" right there. I think he wants to meet at the designated "drop off" and pass the Micro-fish film............................... SHHHHH someones coming!!!!

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