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  • srislash
    Not there yet
    • Mar 2011
    • 7673

    #16
    This has been good reading,I have a few 8's on the new 1717 35"DF.I think I'll try to stick to my 6.5 CC bullets.

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    • AlanN
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2008
      • 334

      #17
      I would try to lube them before any sanding. How about a dollop of dielectric grease (spelling?). WD40 or sim would probably get all over the plugs rendering Tonys girlie fingers to slip right off. :)!

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      • DPeterson
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2007
        • 842

        #18
        Tony
        I was taught years ago to solder the esc directly to the motor wires on high amp set ups. Worked very well in intense high amp setups. Doesn't take much time at all to solder or de-solder for replacement. Eliminates alot of issues.

        See you in a few weeks.

        Doug
        Doug Peterson
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        • properchopper
          • Apr 2007
          • 6968

          #19
          Originally posted by AlanN
          I would try to lube them before any sanding. How about a dollop of dielectric grease (spelling?). WD40 or sim would probably get all over the plugs rendering Tonys girlie fingers to slip right off. :)!
          Ok, OK Alan. So my girlie fingers slip off. No big deal except for those bruises on my forehead
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          • properchopper
            • Apr 2007
            • 6968

            #20
            Originally posted by DPeterson
            Tony
            I was taught years ago to solder the esc directly to the motor wires on high amp set ups. Worked very well in intense high amp setups. Doesn't take much time at all to solder or de-solder for replacement. Eliminates alot of issues.

            See you in a few weeks.

            Doug
            Right you are, Sir. Halfway through my 2-boat 8mm soldering extravaganza I had that same thought. I'm pretty sure it was a thought - I dimly remember what they feel like
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            2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
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            • detox
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Jun 2008
              • 2318

              #21
              I like the looks of the Hobbyking 6mm connectors.
              http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...idproduct=5281

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              • carlcisneros
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Jan 2010
                • 1218

                #22
                Those little 6MM HK connectors are Fraken TIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                I used those on a couple new motors and ESC's for a retro-fit on a twin mono of mine.

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                • steveo
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 1454

                  #23
                  well tony if your not going to swap out motors all the time hardwire them together, i never used a connector between my performance brushed motors ( i know they had a place to solder) and these were way lower amp draw applications than what your pulling and duration- its an option

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                  • properchopper
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 6968

                    #24
                    Originally posted by steveo
                    well tony if your not going to swap out motors all the time hardwire them together, i never used a connector between my performance brushed motors ( i know they had a place to solder) and these were way lower amp draw applications than what your pulling and duration- its an option
                    I'm coming around to realizing that soldering motor & SC wires is a better option. It's just that the racer in me seems to hold on to the idea that connectors would make it easier to swap out frazzled speed controls between heats to stay in the race. Of course I'd need my spare SC's to have 8mm connectors installed which isn't the case as of now - looks like I jumped the gun with the 8's. Live and learn !
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                    2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
                    '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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                    • properchopper
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 6968

                      #25
                      Test #1 with 8mm's

                      Back from the lake with the Cyberstorm rigged for P-Offshore. 3 min test with mild prop (boat needs to run 4 1/2 minutes minimum in offshore, thus mellow prop to keep current draw and mah consumption under control). 8's were barely warm. Next test will come soon with the IB34 rigged for P-Mono and a big wheel on the back pulling much more current. Will post results soon.
                      2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
                      2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
                      '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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                      • JIM MARCUM
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 773

                        #26
                        Tony, thanks for starting this thread. I've had three trips down to the local lake with my Apparition and all three times the 5mm bullets desoldered. All 3 wires twice, and after reducing flex shaft drag, only one fryed on the last run. I was hesitant to go with 8mm bullets with the assumption that the relatively small guage motor wires would still heat up enough to desolder the connectors. I'll change to 8mm bullets & give it a try. Thanks bro. JIM

                        PS: Do you use teflon liners in your stuffing tube?
                        JIM MARCUM: NAMBA 777; EX? SoCal FE Racers Club; D-19; Official 2012 NAMBA FE Nationals Rescue Diver; Purple Heart Viet Nam Vet; Professional SCUBA/HOOKA Diver, KELCO, 1973-1978; BBA 1978, Magna Cum Laude; MBA 1980 w/honors; Retired DOD GS1102-12 Contract Specialist

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                        • jcald2000
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2008
                          • 774

                          #27
                          The 8mm bullets will act as a heat sink and help keep the spec motor WIRES cooler, about 20 degrees.

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                          • properchopper
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 6968

                            #28
                            Originally posted by jcald2000
                            The 8mm bullets will act as a heat sink and help keep the spec motor WIRES cooler, about 20 degrees.
                            Very interesting concept. I like it, makes sense.
                            2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
                            2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
                            '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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                            • srislash
                              Not there yet
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 7673

                              #29
                              I just got a bunch of 8mm from Ben at Fightercat.They are the nicest I've seen yet.They are large enough to grab.The others that came with my used mono have no "meat" to grab.I'll post a comparison photo.

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                              • sundog
                                Platinum Card Member
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 878

                                #30
                                Originally posted by jcald2000
                                The 8mm bullets will act as a heat sink and help keep the spec motor WIRES cooler, about 20 degrees.
                                I'm sure that is a contributing factor, but IMHO the lower resistance (of the 8mm bullets) is the main reason they don't heat up as quickly as smaller connectors. I agree that soldering the wires is best, if that is suitable.
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