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  • martin
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Aug 2010
    • 2887

    #31
    Ive found that some of the Octura teflon liners are a bit tight in the tube, very simple remedy i was given is to stretch the liner which reduces the o/d of the liner & it will then slide in ok. Ive stretched .098 liner 2" on a 1foot length, this dosnt close the liner down to much either onto the flex.

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    • Fluid
      Fast and Furious
      • Apr 2007
      • 8011

      #32
      I don't want to get into the quench VS nonquench argument, but I stopped annealing shaft tubing after one turned into a pretzel. Annealing does soften the shaft and that can result in the pretzel shape aformentioned.
      I have never heated brass or copper tubing or used sand or salt to bend it. I can make a 4" diameter bend with 3/16" without collapsing the tube, you can too if you try. Just go slowly.

      If you want to harden brass, do not heat then quench in water - this softens noble metals. From a hobby site:

      "If a metalsmith heats brass to the point where the atoms possess sufficient energy to rearrange themselves back into well-ordered layers, and then rapidly cools the metal -- a process called tempering -- the metal returns to its softer, more pliable state."



      I soften brass shell casing all the time, quenching works well for that.





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      • Marinetechal
        Junior Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 26

        #33
        I went to the Bearing service shop and purchased a long return spring that fitted snug over the tube, anneal then bend and definitely no kinks.

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        • sailr
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Nov 2007
          • 6927

          #34
          I stopped using teflon liners a couple of years ago. Much less drag and one less thing to worry about!
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          • bigwaveohs
            Senior Member
            • May 2009
            • 535

            #35
            Bending a stuffing tube

            I've done it both ways (with and without heating) and heating seem to be the easiest. There is no need to get it "red" hot or to quench it in water. Heat it with a propane torch until it discolors (starts to blue) in the area you want to bend, and then let it cool naturally on a concrete floor or firebrick. It doesn't take long and bends without kinking.
            JMHO
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            • properchopper
              • Apr 2007
              • 6968

              #36
              Originally posted by bigwaveohs
              I've done it both ways (with and without heating) and heating seem to be the easiest. There is no need to get it "red" hot or to quench it in water. Heat it with a propane torch until it discolors (starts to blue) in the area you want to bend, and then let it cool naturally on a concrete floor or firebrick. It doesn't take long and bends without kinking.
              JMHO
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              • martno1fan
                Banned
                • Jan 2011
                • 238

                #37
                Just install flex and bend SIMPLE,no need to heat,this is soft brass thin walled tube were talking about here not steel lol.Never had a tube kink doing it this way EVER cmon guys keep it simple its not rocket science.

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                • 785boats
                  Wet Track Racing
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 3169

                  #38
                  That's basically how I do it too Marto1fan.
                  I, like you & Jay, have never heated stuffing tubes to bend them. It's easy enough to to without going through all that rigmarole.
                  See the danger. THEN DO IT ANYWAY!!!
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                  • Boaterguy
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 1760

                    #39
                    i have put significant bends (more than enough for a stuffing tube on even the farthest back motors) in tubes and had no issues whatsoever, I never heat, just like sailr said, one less thing to worry about messing up.

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                    • worriedsick4u
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 693

                      #40
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                      I'm new at this but I found this 1/4 OD bender at Lowes for $4.99. Works great. No heating. No sand. Just insert pipe and bend.

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                      • JIM MARCUM
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 773

                        #41
                        My above comments need revision. Unfortunately, what I learned about tempering stainless steel, steel, & sheet metal as a sheetmetal journeyman does not apply to brass.

                        Tempering of brass with heat & quenching makes it softer & easier to bend. That was counterintuative for me. Once tempered or anealed, brass will stay soft. However, softer brass will wear out faster & the stuffing tube will have to be replaced sooner.

                        The only way to re-harden brass is by using rollers or hammering it (not so good for tubing).

                        The bottom line is - if you can bend your stuffing tube with out tempering it do it. JIM
                        JIM MARCUM: NAMBA 777; EX? SoCal FE Racers Club; D-19; Official 2012 NAMBA FE Nationals Rescue Diver; Purple Heart Viet Nam Vet; Professional SCUBA/HOOKA Diver, KELCO, 1973-1978; BBA 1978, Magna Cum Laude; MBA 1980 w/honors; Retired DOD GS1102-12 Contract Specialist

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                        • JimClark
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 5907

                          #42
                          Need to get me one of those

                          Originally posted by worriedsick4u
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                          I'm new at this but I found this 1/4 OD bender at Lowes for $4.99. Works great. No heating. No sand. Just insert pipe and bend.
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                          • JIM MARCUM
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 773

                            #43
                            Exactly where in Lows do you find these benders? I tried several Lowes searches w/o success. Do they go by another name? JIM
                            JIM MARCUM: NAMBA 777; EX? SoCal FE Racers Club; D-19; Official 2012 NAMBA FE Nationals Rescue Diver; Purple Heart Viet Nam Vet; Professional SCUBA/HOOKA Diver, KELCO, 1973-1978; BBA 1978, Magna Cum Laude; MBA 1980 w/honors; Retired DOD GS1102-12 Contract Specialist

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                            • worriedsick4u
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 693

                              #44
                              Plumbing dept. Comes in a pack of 4 different sizes. Coppper tube bender. Didn't find them online either. Just went to the store.

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                              • worriedsick4u
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2011
                                • 693

                                #45
                                Originally posted by JIM MARCUM
                                Exactly where in Lows do you find these benders? I tried several Lowes searches w/o success. Do they go by another name? JIM
                                Here's one on Amazon
                                http://www.amazon.com/Wolverine-PST0.../dp/B000BPNMTU

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