Bending a brass tube...

[LarrysDrifter]

Dont listen to me, what do I know? Listen to the plumber, hes got it down. Hell, I havent even built a boat. I just get on here and talk alot.

[wetsleeves]

No need to get upset, Im only giving an opinion. I didnt say your way was wrong. There are plenty of guys who say you dont even need to anneal the tube.
Mate there many ways to skin a cat, not just your way!
If others cant have an opinion, then maybe everyone should just ask you for advise.
Hey better still PM LarryDrifter, he is the guro after all.
get a life

[LarrysDrifter]

I have a life. This isnt plumbing. Im no guru and if a person wants to anneal a brass stuffing tube, then the way I said to do it is right. Its not about who is right, its about giving correct information to person that has no experience.

[wetsleeves]

Why is it always on these forums If someone says something that someone esle disagrees on, they get shot down. All I was saying is if you anneal the tube and you cool it down with water, you can bend it a lot easies, than if you didnt anneal it in the beginning. Aslong as you bend it once youve cooled it down and not 2 days later.
I never said that larrysdrifter way was wrong, which in fact is the best way if your not in a hurry to bend the tube. I only said what we do because we cant wait around all day for a tube to cool down, espcially when its filled with sand.

[wetsleeves]

Dont listen to me, what do I know? Listen to the plumber, hes got it down. Hell, I havent even built a boat. I just get on here and talk alot.

Well look at your remark back to me.

[Flying Scotsman]

I do not understand why the person who started this thread can not remove the teflon.....anneal the tubing after removal of you know what.

Douggie

[LarrysDrifter]

It isnt annealing if you cool it down quickly with water. Its annealed if it cools on its own (which doesnt take all day). Its a matter of minutes. Heating the tube until red hot makes it soft as long as it cools on its own. When its gets quenched with water, it makes the tube hard again like it was never heated to begin with.

[JIM MARCUM]

I agree with LarrysDrifter. The point is to soften the brass tubing in the area you want to bend. You can do that either when you heat it up (red hot is right), or like I said earlier, after it cools down naturally (annealing). Quenching the tubing with water while red hot will re-temper it & it will again be hard to bend with out flattening it out at the bend. It takes a little pratice but you will figure it out.

As long as you run a teflon liner thats it. If using a stuffing tube w/o liner, AFTER you have the bend you want, heat the tube up again & quench it it cold water to temper (harden) it. Reason is, the flex cable will wear out the part of the tube where you heated it cuz it's softer after being annealed. JIM

[jantagg]

I don't want to get into the quench VS nonquench argument, but I stopped annealing shaft tubing after one turned into a pretzel. Annealing does soften the shaft and that can result in the pretzel shape aformentioned.

[Alexgar]

I bought a tubing bender when making 1/4 radius water pick ups Im sure it would do the trick if you bent and moved ot gradually is I did with an 1 1/2 radius pick up for my renegade rigger

[jkr]

I use only hands for basic bends like an s bend.
For hard bends i use spring or sand.
I never use heat or teflon liner for the process.

[jlanders001]

I do not understand why the person who started this thread can not remove the teflon.....anneal the tubing after removal of you know what.

Douggie

Because it will not come out. Oh I've tried. Believe me. Its that tight. Maybe they glued it or something - I don't know. All I know is that it will not come out. I'll just have to buy a better one that does come out if this one does not work out. I took a chance with buying on Ebay. As you guys probably know, that can backfire on you sometimes.

I’m sorry my thread turned into somewhat of a squabble. All I really needed from it was to learn about the sand trick. Agreeing to disagree seems very appropriate here.

[jlanders001]

Are Teflon tubes supposed to fit loosely in brass tubes?

[SirBudman32]

mine slides right in and out with no problem.

[wetsleeves]

No need to appoligize, its only peoples opinions, its healthy to debate, it only gets on my nerve when people put others down for the replies, whether they agree or not.