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The Neu 2215 motors came in yesterday. WoW these things are huge. I sent the sizes to the machine shop to start the search for aluminum tubing stock for water jackets.
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Last edited by Darin Jordan; 03-14-2008, 11:29 AM.Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
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Would those compete with the lehner 3080'sSamuel Johnson - “An injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere.” William Cooper "listen to everything, read everything, and believe nothing unless you can prove it in your own research!"Comment
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So basicly to power an 1/8th scale hydro or 45+ in mono/cat you need about a 1000 power sysyem. Is this correct?Comment
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NO... Plenty of guys (IMPBA guys) are powering their 1/8th scales with Neu 1527 or Lehner motors ... There are HV ESCs out there for fairly decent prices as well that seem to work...
You have to understand... there are many people out here self-limiting themselves because they don't want to take FE down the path that we KNOW it can go if we let it... That's what these rule proposals are all about... You CAN power an 1/8th scale like the one shown blow the doors off of everyone... including the nitro 1/8ths... OR... you can try to match what the current Nitro 1/8ths can do, which means you can use a much more reasonable power system... Neu 1527, Chinese HV ESC... 8S1P or 10S1P... You can do that fairly reasonably... even more-so now that Neu prices have lowered...
Seriously... just how fast does a 1/8th scale really need to go to be fun and competitive??Last edited by Darin Jordan; 03-14-2008, 12:13 PM.Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
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Seriously... just how fast does a 1/8th scale really need to go to be fun and competitive??[/QUOTE]
And I'll guess I'll find out soon enough!
That statement is true on any class of boat as well. I have attended several races last season (and participated in one) and its amazing that the fastest boat does not usually win the race.
Driving skill (I currently suck) when racing is greatly different than just bashing around at the pond. Collision avoidance, maintaining lanes, and keeping your boat on its bottom in conditions where wakes are coming at you from all angles is much more important than raw speed.
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Kind of a side-topic to this conversation.
It relates to the fastest boat winning or not winning the class. Here's how it shook out in Az last weekend.
The fastest boat won: LSO, N-2 Hydro and N-2 Mono.
The fastest boat did NOT win: P Sport, P Offshore, LSH, N-2 Sport Hydro, N-2 Offshore and P Mono.Comment
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EXACTLY !! Good Point !! My recent experience with Spec OPC Tunnel taught me that all-out speed isn't everything. I'm now looking for a 1/10 hydro with moderate, affordable power. If I need to get a high-speed rush, I'll do some banzai runs [no pun intended, Darin] with the Drifter. 
2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
'11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /MonoComment
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I did not have the fastest P-Mono at WW IV last weekend. Yet I came out in second place sandwiched between two very fast boats and skilled drivers.
My 17.5 pound Avenger cat can do mid 60's in oval race trim using a 1527/1.5Y. It really does not need to be any faster. I could maybe make it faster, especially in solo straight line stuff, but it would be wasted power.
My Open mono can touch 70 mph in solo runs, but last week I had to prop WAY down since the available power was too much for the race conditions. It was probably doing no more than high 50's low 60's during the races. As it was, I was hardly ever able to smash the trigger on full for longer than or 2 seconds.
Something I have noticed about FE folks, we seem obsessed with asking "How fast is it?" it seems all we care about is making the boat go as fast as is possible.
Fast enough is usually good enough, especially for racing ovals. SAWS is a different story.
But FE seems locked in on seeing how much power we can stuff into a hull and driving just well enough to get a scorching top speed on the GPS before it blows off the water. Hence the quest for the 50 mph ++ SV27!!
We do it because we can. Fueled boats are pretty much locked into the power they have available. There are only so many engines and they are all pretty similar in power. One thing I have noticed is that in general they drive better than we do. They have to in order to win because their boats are all pretty close in power and speed.Don't get me started
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As I was one of the initiators of getting this thread slightly off topic,,,allow me to get it back on topic.....
WOW are those motors BIG
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Thank you Darin..& guys. Just about every one around here knows I am not about speed. My prioritys are fun, reliability and cost. I really want to own bigger models. Mainly because they can be operated more harsh wind conditions..Oh and they look kewl
. I need to wait a bit longer for bigger budget motor's & save up for some 5s packs. Funny how the hull is now the most affordable part of the equation. Possibly next year I'll be ready.
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