What am I missing?

[properchopper]

Hey Terry, It is like a whale tale spoiler on a dodge neon. Altho they race dodge neons a whale tale has nothing to do with racing but the owner thinks it's racy for some reseon. I think political corectness has stopped us from pointing our finger at and laughing these things. Don't go making some ridiclous set up that doesn't fit into any racing class then come to racers and ask advice then complain it won't run for 20 minutes on a charge. Racing is racing and impressing friends in highschool is totally differant, never mix them.

Now Jeff, you should realize that a rear spoiler keeps the rear drive wheels coupled to the road when aerodynamics create lift at speeds over 140 mph - therefore it's appropriate that Neons need these appendages...... Oh wait ...

( besides one can get a ticket for distracted driving here in CA for driving while pointing and laughing)

[tiqueman]

And StreetGlow stickers add 40 hp per rear wheel

[Flying Scotsman]

Also, many go fast stickers, a loud crappy sound system, the windows open and a cheap noise appendage on the original exhaust system will gain you at least 40 more HP and your seat has to be set as low as possible and as far backwards as possible to give that WOW factor. The only problem is they do not know how to drive.

Douggie

[maddmatt]

Howdy, I don't understand why newbies can't do anything right. I'll tell you a story. My 6 yrs old kid raced sno-x (mini snowmobile racing). We (the newbies never done it before) showed up to Eagle River Wisconsin for the world championship sno-x and oval snowmobile racing. My kid went out and spanked all the kids(experienced racers and parents) They were so mad that they bitched and moaned and insisted on a complete motor teardown. So They tore the motor apart, inspected and measured all the parts. After 2 hrs of BS. They gave us the OK. World champion!! Damn cry babies( Parents never talked us to ever again). They send out their motors and spend 2.5g's to a pro for building(ps: they only last 20 hrs). Anyway we raced the state and national and won it all 1st across the board. After my kid got too big and we moved on the other toys. I felt sorry for the losers and told them the tricks. Lower Restriction, reduce spinning mass and other simple factors create a fast setup. I apply my knowledge to my boat and it goes good. I don't do the circle stuff anymore( too many whiners) so I'm going for speed. Anyway I got a 12 " billet spoiler on AWD Astro van and its fast. My 2 cents, MM.

[properchopper]

............... a cheap noise appendage on the original exhaust system............
Douggie

I can't understand what these "modified exhaust enthusiasts" think is cool about having their cars perfectly duplicate the exhaust flatulance of a 1954 International Harvester schoolbus

(now that we're going "a little" off topic....)

[Jeff]

This story is only believable if it was a ski-doo and it didn't have any monster energy drink stickers on it for the extra pah.

[Flying Scotsman]

Of course newbies can do it right, but you have to walk before you can run and we all have been newbies at one time.

Douggie

[tiqueman]

MM, I dont think its a "newbs cant do anything right" issue. theres just so many that come in, buy a boat, hardware etc, blow it up and then start a post saying how this or that product is a POS because they ran it once and it blew up. Then when asked what thier set up was, theyre running a 47mm prop on 6S with a 3000KV 3660 turnigy motor and a 120A esc. And all products are junk because they blew up etc etc. Alot of us try to steer newbs in directions for safe running and to try and not let this happen, but the trend lately, is most, not all, dont want to listen. Eveyones got different tastes for what they want. I wanted to go fast, I did it, it got boring real quick, so I got into racing. I too was one who had bad experiences in both gas boats and electric cars. At the time, being a 15 yr old newb and going in and kicking some butt, I too had things torn down by officials etc etc. I hesitated for 2 years to join the boat club Im now a part of. the guys in that club werent the usual arrogant a-holes I was used to dealing with. Im still one of the youngest in the club, now 35, but everyone treats everyone with full respect and is willing to lend a hand, part, etc. Newbs can do it right, but as Douggie said, weve all been the newb, we all learned to walk first. And like I said, a lot of these newbs come in running and do nothing but give bad set up advice to other newbs. Were just here to help, not start a war. Listen, or dont, but when stuff blows up and they come crying, I will be the one not listening. ( Last line not directed to you MM)

[properchopper]

Howdy, I don't understand why newbies can't do anything right. I'll tell you a story. My 6 yrs old kid raced sno-x (mini snowmobile racing). We (the newbies never done it before) showed up to Eagle River Wisconsin for the world championship sno-x and oval snowmobile racing. My kid went out and spanked all the kids(experienced racers and parents) They were so mad that they bitched and moaned and insisted on a complete motor teardown. So They tore the motor apart, inspected and measured all the parts. After 2 hrs of BS. They gave us the OK. World champion!! Damn cry babies( Parents never talked us to ever again). They send out their motors and spend 2.5g's to a pro for building(ps: they only last 20 hrs). Anyway we raced the state and national and won it all 1st across the board. After my kid got too big and we moved on the other toys. I felt sorry for the losers and told them the tricks. Lower Restriction, reduce spinning mass and other simple factors create a fast setup. I apply my knowledge to my boat and it goes good. I don't do the circle stuff anymore( too many whiners) so I'm going for speed. Anyway I got a 12 " billet spoiler on AWD Astro van and its fast. My 2 cents, MM.

Sir, it ain't about "newbies not doing anything right". If you enjoy what you're doing that's good enough for me. What it's about is, to be blunt, is doing 80 mph for five minutes. Just don't sound credible to me. I'm a "circle stuff" guy (and have a few SAW records as well) btw but I'm not whining-just anxious to see this claim backed up, as I'm sure others would. As a successful racer you know that when the flag drops, the BS stops. And a spoiler on a van creating more drag on a vehicle that has already the aerodynamics of a barn, well that speaks for itself...

[jimi911]

Its more interesting to do the math on some speed claims. Some must be running in a substance other than water to achieve their speeds and run times ... or perhaps the GPS was left on in their dodge neon on the way to the pond :)

If people want to wreck their gear that's fine, its their $$$ and time and I have wrecked my share ... I am sure we all have.

Safety with the voltage is important. I would think anyone using Lipos would be using some sort of cover on their plugs to prevent shorting. I use clear plumbing tube for fine and I haven't had a dead short.

Also, be careful were you run. a 60mph boat can do some serious damage to people and (more likely) property. In 2006, a kid got killed by a sport runner (not FE) ... run your missiles where people aren't. The pic below had nothing to do with it, but is a good indication. FEs are faster and, usually, heavier.

I have been away from this from a couple years. Its all the same themes here: lipo safety, bad advice, speed claims, and even the length limit debate. Its nice nothing has changed No sarcasm intended at all there. We all act like we hate this stuff, but its bench racing/debate and its still the best free entertainment in any hobby.

[properchopper]

Its more interesting to do the math on some speed claims. Some must be running in a substance other than water to achieve their speeds and run times ... or perhaps the GPS was left on in their dodge neon on the way to the pond :)

If people want to wreck their gear that's fine, its their $$$ and time and I have wrecked my share ... I am sure we all have.

Safety with the voltage is important. I would think anyone using Lipos would be using some sort of cover on their plugs to prevent shorting. I use clear plumbing tube for fine and I haven't had a dead short.

Also, be careful were you run. a 60mph boat can do some serious damage to people and (more likely) property. In 2006, a kid got killed by a sport runner (not FE) ... run your missiles where people aren't. The pic below had nothing to do with it, but is a good indication. FEs are faster and, usually, heavier.

I have been away from this from a couple years. Its all the same themes here: lipo safety, bad advice, speed claims, and even the length limit debate. Its nice nothing has changed No sarcasm intended at all there. We all act like we hate this stuff, but its bench racing/debate and its still the best free entertainment in any hobby.

Hey Jimi, Welcome back Was it you that sold me an OM 26 years ago ? Had major fun racing that little critter; cornered like a bobsled !

Oh, and great picture of the nitro powered rescue boat...Clever !

[T.S.Davis]

Peter, have you run a 10s boat and 4 other boats across 3 rounds in a day? The three guys I saw dead short 10s packs hold about 15 world records and at least a dozen national championships between them. If those guys are idiots we're all doomed.

I care about what guys that don't run are racing because my hope, wish, want, dream, desire is for people to try racing, like it, and come out and play with ME and my buddies. I was honest about that. It's a selfish desire. I admitted that too.

This forum has turned into RRR from about 5 years ago. All topics are reduced to the same thing. Exactly like RRR did. Everybody is an expert. Those experts are:

1. Newbies with no race expereience. Of course, they can get it right. Just don't ask a racer for advice. You'll chastized by the group below for pointing you towards something you could race if you wanted to......someday.
2. Down and back non-racers who get pissed if they aren't given the full respect of both the racers and and the newbies. Yep, they can get it right if your going down and back. Down and back works if that's all you're planning to do.
3. Then there are racers who can get it right too. But they're point you to something with a race option so you can if you want to. Those guys are discounted by the former because......not everybody races and the racers don't know anything.

Run 40s. Put 6s in No Step 2's. Hey, let's encourage people to be unsafe in other ways too. Maybe running your boats around swimmers. That's not very safe but it's in both organizations safety rules for racing. If it's written by racers for racers it's clearly wrong. Racing will die and then everyone will be happy. Bring on the sport boating! I'll run by myself. Should be loads of fun.

Uncle. I'll do my best to refrain from posting anything thought provoking in the future.

[Fluid]

Terry, thanks for putting into words what most experienced FE boaters have been "afraid" to say about this forum. I stopped posting on RRR long ago due to your second type of member. I was called names that would make a sailor blush in PMs. Who needs that , this is toy boats. Those experts with no experience but inflated opinions of themselves are well known, most are on my "ignore list". What a great functionality of the board.


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[Flying Scotsman]

MM, my last comment on ths matter, please listen to some very experienced FE boaters and I am still learning the nuances of this hobby with the help from racers and others with a lot of experience of FE boating.....Terry, this is not a racing forum, it is a fun boating forum but I love to see the endeavours of the racing fraternity and their help for setup knowledge and safety issues which help us all enjoy this hobby, and we trust that many more boaters will fill the ranks of racing clubs in their area if one exists.

Douggie

[jimi911]

Hey Jimi, Welcome back Was it you that sold me an OM 26 years ago ? Had major fun racing that little critter; cornered like a bobsled !

Oh, and great picture of the nitro powered rescue boat...Clever !

I think it was ... I had a few of those. Sold another to a newbie in the club several years back and the damn guy beat me with it in the first race. Nice to see a few of my old boats are still around and sitting in people's fleets. I have seen a few familiar boats show up in the galleries on this forum.