HK Vanquish

[Diesel6401]

Figured I would start a fresh thread. Here's the link to the orginal if anyone wants to reference it http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...ad.php?t=21797.

Boat arrived today. First impression is this thing is NOT small. Looks good. Here are some of the plus's and minus's so far.

Plus:
+ Price
+ Size
+ Shape & Design
+ Motor coupler is very nice 3 piece desing, I may be able to replace the brass fitting with a .187 insert from Kintec.
+ Hardware - nice quality & mounted
+ Motor mount is attached VERY well unlike most HK/China hulls

Minus:
- Wood mount trays not attached well, not sure about the servo mount
- Hull seems very thin on FG
- 4mm 2 piece square drive
- Decals are not easily removed. Can't tell if it's paint or Decal's that are clear coated
- Small imperfections in the gelcoat. Small ding on the back transom. Nothing major and to be expected

* I am going to have to re-read forescotts thread again on the Osprey and get some info.

[Diesel6401]

More pics

In the pic of the coupler you can see the 3 piece design and I think the insert from Jan may work http://kintecracing.com/Collets_Couplers.html 1st choice on the page, the .187 insert make work.

[Diesel6401]

Purposed setup is going to be:

Motor: Leopard 4082 1500kv
Esc: Swordfish 240, CC 240 Ice, Etti 150 Navy Opto (As you can see I am not 100% sure yet)
Drive: .187 3/16 flex
Servo: EXI D226F Digital Servo (Hopefully big enough) http://www.hobbypartz.com/60gexidise.html
RX: Spektrum MR200
Batts: 5s1p & 6s1p - Turnigy 6000mah 25c-50c nano-techs. Really don't want to go 2p, but if I don't have a choice I will.
Prop: CF48, x447, x447/3, m445

*I have everything except the motor & esc. I do have a swordy 200 laying around, but I DO NOT want to run 6s on it.

* Looking for a sport boat setup, speed goal is mid to high 40mph. I don't want to get crazy with it. Liking the 4082 leopard because I can use the stock mount.

- Always open to suggestions from those more wise then myself!

[785boats]

Diesel.
My experience with these HK, HOR, R2hobbies type boats is that the hardware on the back is usually loose & poorly sealed, & there is no thickness/strength in the transom. With the ones I've done I always remove the hardware, epoxy an extra 1/8 ply doubler in the transom, seal it with some light glass & refit all the gear using longer bolts & some sealer.
Of course this one might be different, but it's worth checking.
Paul.

[JackBlack26]

Hey, I thought HK said it came with a 36mm motor mount? Maybe they changed it to a 40.

Really digging it. I'm going to order one when they come back in stock.

[Diesel6401]

Diesel.
My experience with these HK, HOR, R2hobbies type boats is that the hardware on the back is usually loose & poorly sealed, & there is no thickness/strength in the transom. With the ones I've done I always remove the hardware, epoxy an extra 1/8 ply doubler in the transom, seal it with some light glass & refit all the gear using longer bolts & some sealer.
Of course this one might be different, but it's worth checking.
Paul.

I always double check my hardware on every new boat I get even from PB or AQ. I haven't had any chance to really REALLY look over the hull but the doubler they have installed seems to be fine. I will keep everyone posted. Good info....

Hey, I thought HK said it came with a 36mm motor mount? Maybe they changed it to a 40.

Really digging it. I'm going to order one when they come back in stock.

The mount they use is a universal mount for 36mm or 40m motors, All they do is change the aft the support ring to suit each motor. I have a spare 40mm support ring laying around, but I will prob just end up using a zip-tie like I have done in the past.

[gultch]

any thoughts on how to remove the stock timber fittings thanks

[iamandrew]

well.. i removed most of the wood from my genesis simply by heating up the wood with a hair dryer, then getting a chizel and slowly wedging off the wood.
worked really well.
Dont overheat the boat though

[gultch]

did ur stuffing tube have a kink in it about 3 inches from the end and did u remove it also

[Brushless55]

this hull looks cool man!

[JackBlack26]

I just pulled on the wood in my Genesis and it came apart. Then used a dermel with sanding drum to smooth out the residue. My stuffing tube fell off when removed the strut, lol.

IMO, if you want to keep the wood in any of these boats you have to glass over it.

I'm still wishing I would of ordered one of these boats when they were in stock, weeks back. Now I have a 1717 with no home.

[Brushless55]

how big are these??

[forescott]

40-41 inches tip to stern.

[forescott]

What did shipping end up costing??

[785boats]

Diesel.
If the glass in the hull is thin, the motor mounts will twist the bottom of the hull from side to side & you will end up with cracks in the gelcoat under the hull. This is because the torque of the motor is transfered to such small contact areas in the hull with no bracing. I've also seen those freestanding mounts rip out of a 32" hull in a guys boat in the first 10' of it's maiden run.
I would suggest running a set of rails along the hull glued to the mounts & the hull & a fillet of glass added down each side.
I just gutted & rebuild a 32" Pursuit hull I bought second hand. Full of cracks in the gelcoat & the mount breaking away from the hull on one side.
I always run the rails from the transom to up past the front of the hatch with the battery tray in between them. also with a crosspiece to support the stuffing tube. Makes for a very rigid hull.
Here's a couple of pics to give you an idea.
Great looking boat you've got there, by the way.
Paul.