Need input!!

[LST XXL]

Ok guys...so i have the traxxas boat on pre-order all summer now and i'm hopping that it will be here in january sometime....although now that it's winter a frozen up here in Canada, i have lots of time to put "upgrades" in it when it comes..

So, Castle Creations has there motor sale on and they have the Castle/Neu 1520 1Y 1600kV car motor on sale for $65....so i'm woundering..that motor(water cooled), Castle hydra 120, on 6s 2p 10000 mAh(2x 6s 5000mah 40c) in the traxxas spartan....will it work?...will it be over kill? (i love over kill ) any input will be happily receiced

[BHChieftain]

I've read about concerns with the CC hydra 240A ESC on 6S, so I suspect the 120 might not be the right ESC for that setup,

Chief

[forescott]

Another question is whether the larger diameter castle motor will fit in the traxxas power module. The screw spacing is the same. Also a 120amp esc will not be enough for the castle motor either. A turnigy 180 minimum, or aquastar/swordfish/castle 240 will be needed.

[Make-a-Wake]

Castle 1520 + hydra 120 =

[LST XXL]

I've read about concerns with the CC hydra 240A ESC on 6S, so I suspect the 120 might not be the right ESC for that setup,

Chief

Ok thanks alot for the info, i will look into this more...and judging by the posts made after yours i may go with the castle hydra 240..but i will deffinatly reserch more if you've heard they've had issues on 6s

Another question is whether the larger diameter castle motor will fit in the traxxas power module. The screw spacing is the same. Also a 120amp esc will not be enough for the castle motor either. A turnigy 180 minimum, or aquastar/swordfish/castle 240 will be needed.

I believe the Castle motor should fit, based on the pictures on traxxas' site, the motor is right at the end of the power module so diameter shouldn't matter to much other then the possiblility of maby hitting the hull?

I'm getting the boat anyway so i will be able to looking into this before buying stuff to do it as i already have a Castle 1520 1Y in my LST XXL conversion, so i can take that one out when the boat comes and size things up.

Castle 1520 + hydra 120 =

LOL good to know...judging by the posts above i'm going to need a castle 240 for this setup anyway so now that i know that i shouldn't have to worry about the should i?


Thanks guys for the posts and keep the comments coming

-Austin

[Rumdog]

My 2 cents-
If you're going to spend the $$ on high power quality components, put them in a high quality FIBERGLASS hull.
It may be a quality hull for ABS, but appearance and feel still are chinsy.

[LST XXL]

My 2 cents-
If you're going to spend the $$ on high power quality components, put them in a high quality FIBERGLASS hull.
It may be a quality hull for ABS, but appearance and feel still are chinsy.

I knew somewhere in this thread somebody was going to say that...

To me the spartan hull looks better then any fiberglass hull availible that i have seen. plus i don't want to build my own boat yet(meening put hardwear on the hull) so i think this will be the easiest way for me to do it....plus it will be cheaper for me to do it this way(see below) and if i decide i want to later these electronics could be transfered to a different hull.

This is what appox. it will cost for the spartan and these electronics:
Spartan- $370
Hydra 240- $255
1520 1Y- $65

Total: $690

Plus i would sell the stock electronics:
Stock motor/esc combo- aprox $150?
Traxxas 2.4 radio- Aprox $40

So the total is now: $500..

I already have 6s 5000mah 30c lipos, spektrum marine rx..

So in reality this should only cost me about $500 rtr including the boat.

I'm pretty sure that building one from scratch with a fiber glass hull would cost alot more.


Thank you for your input though... i was deffinatly expecting somebody to say that before i posted this thread :)

[chummer]

I'm no pro here but the general rule of thumb is not to push any esc to it's max voltage. You would be better off with a HV esc.

I would wait until you have that boat in your hands before purchasing any upgrades.

[LST XXL]

I'm no pro here but the general rule of thumb is not to push any esc to it's max voltage. You would be better off with a HV esc.

I would wait until you have that boat in your hands before purchasing any upgrades.

Yea i am waiting untill i have the boat...i'm not going to buy anything untill i'm sure that it's going to work either

On the pushing an esc to it's max voltage...i run my LST XXL on 6s with a MMM and 6s is it's max input, it runs fine...is there something different for boat escs that i haven't read/come across yet?

[Make-a-Wake]

Just a thought here, you're not gonna pick up much speed due to the relatively same kv as the stock 540XL. You are gonna have to load it up with prop to make a good difference...........which means a good bit more diameter..................and then, some torque roll issues.

[LST XXL]

So would i be better off just leaving this boat stock?..

Will i be able to run it stock with 2 5000mah 6s' in it?...that's adding another 3 pounds to a 4 pound boat lol..

Cause i want to be able to run 2x 6s 5000 mah in parallel so i can have nice long run times out on lake Superior

[LST XXL]

Thats really the main reason i wanted to run the bigger motor...was because of the extra weight i wanted to put in it...

[forescott]

Yea i am waiting untill i have the boat...i'm not going to buy anything untill i'm sure that it's going to work either

On the pushing an esc to it's max voltage...i run my LST XXL on 6s with a MMM and 6s is it's max input, it runs fine...is there something different for boat escs that i haven't read/come across yet?

I have the savage flux and run it on 6s all day long too with the mmm combo. I havent had any issues with running esc's at their max recommended voltage. Just don't over-prop your setup.

[Make-a-Wake]

Thats really the main reason i wanted to run the bigger motor...was because of the extra weight i wanted to put in it...

OK, that makes a little more sense.................more motor to push more weight. I think a Leopard 4074 1400kv would give you a good bit more power. Were you thinking of running two of these?

http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=10480

[LST XXL]

OK, that makes a little more sense.................more motor to push more weight. I think a Leopard 4074 1400kv would give you a good bit more power. Were you thinking of running two of these?

http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...dProduct=10480

Yea i guess i should have been more clear on that...i don't want more motor for more speed...i want a nice speed but nice long run times so i can mess around while salmon fishing out on lake supirior. i wanted more motor so i could run larger batteries so i could have longer run times

And no i wanted to run 2 of these: http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...idProduct=9518 because i already have them for my LST XXL conversion