Apparition on 6s with typhoon 1800kv

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  • Pompel
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 7

    #16
    Have you tested the boat more with this setup?
    How many cells do you recommend for a trustworthy boat? Is 6 cells too much?
    How long run time you will get with this setup?
    Was it just to bolt the engine right in or was it much modification?
    I wish to mount the same engine as you are in a Genesis, but is unsure how many cells and how many mAh I should run?

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    • Graeme
      Member
      • Jun 2010
      • 90

      #17
      I have run this set up lots on 4s2p very reliable everything stays cold.
      It runs a constant 40mph and last 15-20 minutes on 5000mAh packs.

      I have not tried 5s to see if things stay cool.
      I would imagine it's just a matter of finding the right prop combo to run 6s and keep the heat down.

      The only thing I modified to make the motor fit was the motor.
      I cut around 5mm off the shaft as it was much longer than stock motor shaft other then that it bolts right in.

      I should have my Genesis this week and I am going to try this motor out in it as well.

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      • Graeme
        Member
        • Jun 2010
        • 90

        #18
        I tried the typhoon in my genesis today and it sucks.
        too much boat for the motor.
        It's slower than stock and gets too hot.

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        • ray schrauwen
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Apr 2007
          • 9471

          #19
          The Typhoon is a tad too small for the Genisis but, what props did you try? Did you use 6S?

          You would have been better off with the newer Large Heli motors, H600 4030, 1400KV.

          This motor on 5S2P will be over 50mph as in my 29" 3.5lb (bare hull weight) cat. Go like the clappers! on 10,000mah total 5s2p 25C 4yr old poly rc cells, Turnigy 180 and a detongued x450 2 blade.
          Attached Files
          Nortavlag Bulc

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          • Graeme
            Member
            • Jun 2010
            • 90

            #20
            I tried 4s with the stock prop. which I think is a 38 mm
            I want to run a 6s set up in the genesis so I will look for a suitable 600 class heli motor.

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            • maxmekker
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2010
              • 412

              #21
              I found some stuff on the tube, This might be of interest to some.







              Drammen rock City

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              • ray schrauwen
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Apr 2007
                • 9471

                #22
                Originally posted by Graeme
                I tried 4s with the stock prop. which I think is a 38 mm
                I want to run a 6s set up in the genesis so I will look for a suitable 600 class heli motor.
                This is what we are using: http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=11980
                Nortavlag Bulc

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                • Graeme
                  Member
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 90

                  #23
                  what do you use for a collet for that 6mm shaft ?

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                  • FighterCat57
                    "The" Fighter Cat
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 3480

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Graeme
                    what do you use for a collet for that 6mm shaft ?
                    OSE usually stocks the 6mm couplers, Jeff sells them too. You can also take a 5mm octura collet to a local machine shop and ask them to increase the size to 6mm. They are hardened to tough to drill on the bench.
                    FighterCatRacing Team CHING BLING - Ching Bling. Brilliant, Advanced Sparkle for your hull.

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                    • Graeme
                      Member
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 90

                      #25
                      Thanks going to get one from Jeff once I get my credit card back..
                      discovered some unauthorized transactions on the card

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                      • FighterCat57
                        "The" Fighter Cat
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 3480

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Graeme
                        Thanks going to get one from Jeff once I get my credit card back..
                        discovered some unauthorized transactions on the card
                        Yeah, sorry, needed some parts.


                        I'm with Ray on this, I would go with the T600 in the Apparition, or the shorter 406x leopard. The 4074 is a bit too long and requires some modification of the motor mount to fit under the hatch.
                        FighterCatRacing Team CHING BLING - Ching Bling. Brilliant, Advanced Sparkle for your hull.

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                        • Graeme
                          Member
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 90

                          #27
                          going with the T600 in the Genesis I am very happy with the typhoon in the Apparition.

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                          • Graeme
                            Member
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 90

                            #28
                            Ok so I switched out the Turnigy 180a esc with a 120 Turnigy aquastar.
                            The 180 went into the Genesis
                            and I am not very impressed with it. The boat seems to runs much slower.
                            Only thing I can think is that the timing is off. options are as follows
                            Right now I have it on Auto does anyone have experience with these ESC's?

                            Option 1: Low advance timing
                            0°~15°
                            Recommended for more lower pole count motors. Gives more power and
                            slightly less efficient.

                            Option 2: middle advance timing
                            5 °~ 20 °
                            Recommended for most motors .Gives a good balance of power and efficiency.

                            Option 3: High advance timing
                            15° ~ 30 °
                            Recommended for most of higher pole count motors
                            Option4:Auto(default)
                            Recommended

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                            • syncronized77
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 277

                              #29
                              Hmmm...never thought of going the outrunner motor method. Didn't realize it was cheaper!!

                              Do you think this motor on 4S would be good in a BJ26 length 26 7/8in (660mm)? Maybe 6S if propped correctly?

                              Or be able to power a 30+ inch Vegas brushless conversion on 4S? 32.25in (820mm)?
                              Go Brushless or GO HOME

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                              • Graeme
                                Member
                                • Jun 2010
                                • 90

                                #30
                                I have on in a scratch build 27 inch deep V seems to be a little too much power for it but I am sure it's a balance thing.

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