Insane FE 30 motor/esc/prop advise

[britscoot]

Hi

i want this boat to be very fast and still get good run times.

What do you guys recommend?

Cheers

Ian

[Make-a-Wake]

Here's a pretty cool setup.............leopard 4074 2200kv on 4s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L1HUx9A7hU

For the "very fast", another thought would be a neu 1521 1.5D on 4s............or 5s

[Flying Scotsman]

Hi

i want this boat to be very fast and still get good run times.

What do you guys recommend?

Cheers

Ian

What is very fast...what are good run times...what stuff do you already have and FE knowledge???

Douggie

[v-spec]

Here's a pretty cool setup.............leopard 4074 2200kv on 4s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L1HUx9A7hU

For the "very fast", another thought would be a neu 1521 1.5D on 4s............or 5s

That's my video, I was never above 80% throttle here and I was letting off in the turns. I don't think most people will be able to handle the boat at the speeds it's capable of with this setup. Maybe for straights but for oval it's pretty insane.

It will usually corner flat with no lift of the throttle. It'll run like this for maybe 2 minutes max. I moved to a UL-1 motor and was mid 50's all day long (for 1 minute at a time) 57mph on many occasions. It runs too hot with the UL-1 motor for anything over 1.5 minutes. (edit)It could be propped down some and run cooler but it just didn't handle as well with the props I had available.

I'm moving to an 1800kv motor now and expect it to run right about 50. If I was going to recommend something and you want something fast I'd get the Leopard 2000kv motor off OSE here and maybe an M445 prop. It should run fairly cool like that.

This boat handles so well it's almost a shame to see everyone wanting to put such monstrous power in them and make them undrivable. I want mine setup as a spec boat though that's just my preference so I understand people wanting to go 80mph just for fun. I just think most will end up trashing the boat at those speeds.

[properchopper]

Brent, well put, & Douggie, I know where you're coming from. In this case, Ian is interested in a prop for the UL-1 spec setup per my conversations with him. I've given him some prop recommendations with the caution to always check temps at first.
I'll agree that it is always a bit frustrating to witness the relatively inexperienced boater's quest for greater speeds [ often with the unrealistic caveat of long runtimes/decent reliability.] Many new boaters like to see just how fast they can make a boat go, usually just back and forth in straightline speed bursts. I know because I was one of them. What I've learned along the way is : number one - lots of hulls get airborne at speeds over 60 mph & the inevitable cartwheeling tears chunks of boat off. Number two : Piloting a well trimmed boat around a course, for me at least, has replaced the "need for max speed" and is much more rewarding, even though the peak speeds are less. To each his own.

[britscoot]

Thank you for all the replys.
You guys have priceless experience for which i'm grateful.
Thank you to Tony for the email also.

When i say fast, i mean sensible speed...
i'm not looking to cook electronics or damage the hull.

I loved the way Tony's FE 30 handled in his first video,and i would be happy
at that.
I also want to make the correct motor/prop choice for a cool running set up.

Thanks again guys!

Ian

[britscoot]

this is want i want also...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L1HUx9A7hU

[Flying Scotsman]

Tony, very well said. I need to meet you in person as you are sane, polite, knowlegeable and a real bonus to this forum. Unlike myself

Douggie

[Flying Scotsman]

Ian, you have to state your goals and what budget, if you were happy with Tony's setup with UL-1 power and stated prop...copy it, and then experiment with other options.

Douggie

[britscoot]

Hey Douggie

i guess my goal is to have a perfect boat that handles well.
I have the UL motor ready to drop in but would like to try other options.
Am i right in thinking a bigger esc will help reduce heat?

Cheers!
Ian

[britscoot]

Forgot to mention i'm not rich but i am divorced/no kids.....lol

[Flying Scotsman]

Ian, an esc will not reduce heat...props...motors...batteries...create heat due to amperage/voltage draw.

Douggie

[LiPo Power]

Douggie
Just wondering:
So if I have XXX ESC, say 180 Amp and on my set up I am getting 120F temp on it, you saying if I replace ESC and install 240 Amp ESC I will still get the same temperature of my new ESC of 120F?
Thanks
Robert

Ian, an esc will not reduce heat...props...motors...batteries...create heat due to amperage/voltage draw.

Douggie

[Rumdog]

Yeah, a 240 volt esc will run cooler than a ul-1 esc with the ul-1 motor, if the setup otherwise is the same.

[johnf]

Yeah, a 240 volt esc will run cooler than a ul-1 esc with the ul-1 motor, if the setup otherwise is the same.

whoa, I think you mean AMP. LOL