Setup for Genesis cat Twin ??

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  • westbeach
    OSE Rocks!
    • Feb 2008
    • 951

    #16
    If you went with 2x5s with the 1800Kv it will be a hot setup. Do you want a fast boat?

    Originally posted by Alfa Spirit
    If I go for 2x5S, motor will be 1800kV or 1900kV with X442 propellers?

    For us in France Tenshock are cheaper than Neu

    http://www.tenshock-motors.de/Tensho...-Pole-TSCZ2240
    HPR115 x2 ,Dark Horse Shovel, Delta Force CyberStorm, Delta Force Sniper 23-RTR:

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    • westbeach
      OSE Rocks!
      • Feb 2008
      • 951

      #17
      I think a good sport setup will be the 2240/10 @ 1530KV = 28,305rpm/kv on 5S of course. You can start with a X442 and work up to X447. This will give you some decent run time. You will still need to decide on the esc's.
      HPR115 x2 ,Dark Horse Shovel, Delta Force CyberStorm, Delta Force Sniper 23-RTR:

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      • Alfa Spirit
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Oct 2009
        • 2131

        #18
        No I want a slow boat Humm, sorry.

        Tenshock 2240/9 1700kV and 2240/8 1900kV ? For 2x5S and X442 propellers?

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        • westbeach
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          • Feb 2008
          • 951

          #19
          Are you talking 5s each motor right?
          HPR115 x2 ,Dark Horse Shovel, Delta Force CyberStorm, Delta Force Sniper 23-RTR:

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          • Alfa Spirit
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            • Oct 2009
            • 2131

            #20
            Yes, a good ESC is very important, Turnigy 180A or ETTI 150A or YGE 120A Navy if I' ve got the money for

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            • westbeach
              OSE Rocks!
              • Feb 2008
              • 951

              #21
              If you want a slow boat I would recommend the 2240/10. (I shouldn't say slow, as it will be fasther than 30 mph!) The 2240/9 is going to be a fast boat. You can prop up with the 2240/10 to get more speed if the 442 is not fast enough.

              Originally posted by Alfa Spirit
              No I want a slow boat Humm, sorry.

              Tenshock 2240/9 1700kV and 2240/8 1900kV ? For 2x5S and X442 propellers?
              Last edited by westbeach; 06-20-2010, 06:53 PM.
              HPR115 x2 ,Dark Horse Shovel, Delta Force CyberStorm, Delta Force Sniper 23-RTR:

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              • Alfa Spirit
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                • Oct 2009
                • 2131

                #22
                Originally posted by westbeach
                Are you talking 5s each motor right?
                Yes, 5S + one ESC for each motor
                or 4S + one ESC for each motor

                I think that 35000 RPM is good for a catamaran and 30000 RPM is good for a mono. I am wrong?

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                • westbeach
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                  • Feb 2008
                  • 951

                  #23
                  OK good!

                  Originally posted by Alfa Spirit
                  Yes, 5S + one ESC for each motor
                  or 4S + one ESC for each motor
                  HPR115 x2 ,Dark Horse Shovel, Delta Force CyberStorm, Delta Force Sniper 23-RTR:

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                  • Alfa Spirit
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                    • Oct 2009
                    • 2131

                    #24
                    I' ve found this video. Setup is 2x5S Neu motors 2000kV and X442 propellers.
                    The hull is a Maritimo Hydro Marine same size than the Genesis

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                    • westbeach
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                      • Feb 2008
                      • 951

                      #25
                      that is bonewar, (Rick) I will see if I can find his thread.

                      Originally posted by Alfa Spirit
                      I' ve found this video. Setup is 2x5S Neu motors 2000kV and X442 propellers.
                      The hull is a Maritimo Hydro Marine same size than the Genesis

                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt8re...eature=channel
                      HPR115 x2 ,Dark Horse Shovel, Delta Force CyberStorm, Delta Force Sniper 23-RTR:

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                      • westbeach
                        OSE Rocks!
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 951

                        #26
                        Alpha,

                        Here is the thread. I can't remember if he has build more than 1 cat. But he uses 1 NEU motor/drive for this project, that is why he uses a higher KV motor, to push the big hull.

                        http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...maritimo+build
                        HPR115 x2 ,Dark Horse Shovel, Delta Force CyberStorm, Delta Force Sniper 23-RTR:

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                        • Alfa Spirit
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 2131

                          #27
                          Yes my friend, this is Bonewar' s Maritimo
                          His boat is very fast. BL motors are NEU 1512 2.5D=2050KV this is a hot setup, Ilove the sound of twin Neu
                          The post about the SIMRAD Maritimo twin setup : http://www.rumrunnerracing.com/fefor...light=maritimo

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                          • Alfa Spirit
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 2131

                            #28
                            I need to build 2 parts like on the drawing to have a perfect adjustment powertrims/XX442/bullet nuts.
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                            • bonewar
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 549

                              #29
                              Hi Alfa,

                              My choice for a light setup would be 2-Neu 1512 1.5y 1850kv on 5 cells ( 34225rpm).

                              Or for a heavier setup 2- Neu 1515 2.5d 1650kv on 5 cells (30525rpm).

                              Both setups will require a very good esc. I think the YGE 120 navy will be up to the task.

                              And the props , Octura x442 cupped and detounged L/R.

                              Very good props to start with

                              Both these setups should get the boat over 60 mph.

                              And be reliable.

                              My Simrad cat runs 2-1512 2.5d Neus on 5 cells (37925rpm) and octura x442.

                              Top speed so far is 64.5 mph / 103.8 klm/h.

                              Average amp draw is 55-60amps. Max amps around 120.
                              Run time of 6 mins with this setup.

                              Only problem I've had with the Simrad cat is the shafts keep letting go(glued joint).
                              So Ive changed all me flex cables and silver soldered them.
                              Haven't had that happen since i changed to the silver solder.

                              There is another Maritimo that has a very fast setup.

                              WOLF IV

                              http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...ead.php?t=7432

                              Wolf uses 2- Neu 1515 1.5d 2700kv on 4 cell (39960rpm) top speed for his setup
                              67.1mph.
                              2- Hydra 240 LV esc's.
                              And i might add that it is a very well built cat .
                              One of my favorites.

                              SO i hope this helps mate.

                              Cheers Bonewar
                              SIMRAD MARITIMO TWIN 1512 NEU'S , M12 MARITIMO SINGLE 1527 NEU , SV27 1509 NEU , SV27 NITRO O.S. 18CV-R 3.0cc WATER COOLED RACE ENGINE.

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                              • Alfa Spirit
                                Fast Electric Addict!
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 2131

                                #30
                                Thank you for reply, your Maritimo is fast and stable. Very nice cat

                                That helps me. 2x4S looks good but I prefer having more voltage and less amps.
                                Looking to HPR 115, many setups are 2x6S but the Genesis hull is smaller.

                                That confirm that 18,5 Volts for each motor is the right choice.
                                What do you think about good 1900kV motors with X442 props

                                Thank you
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